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Life According To Sabrina Ben Salmi BSc
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Episode 37 · 2 years ago

Episode #37: Tony J Selimi

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

MEET TONY J. SELIMI

Visionary, Philanthropist, Cognition Expert, International Speaker, Filmmaker, Business Coach,

Educator and Internationally Published Award-Winning Author.

Student of Demartini Institute School of Advanced Studies.

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FROM HOMELESS TO HOLLYWOOD…

I was born in Gostivar, a small town in Northern Macedonia into a hard-working-good family. As a five-year-old, unknown to my family, I experienced sexual, mental and emotional abuse. At school, I was bullied for being of different creed, and at the age of ten, due to an illness that almost took my life, I spent two and a half years being treated in various hospitals.

To free myself from the pain I felt deep inside, the shame and the guilt that followed me throughout my childhood and teenage years, I pushed myself to study very hard and be one of the best students in every school I went. I received many awards in science, physics, mathematics and in 1998 I ended up studying in one of the top engineering universities in Zagreb, Croatia.

This happiness was short-lived, as in the summer of 1989 the Yugoslav civil war broke and I was forced to join the army and fight a war deep down I despised. Miraculously my life was saved, and in 1990 my mother put me on a one-way flight to London. Adrift after this trauma, I found myself homeless feeling alone, desperate and fearful with no one to turn for help. While shaving, I would stare in the mirror at this person trying to heal his pain, educate himself and climb the corporate ladder to fulfil the voids he had on the inside.

This “excruciating pain,” as I call it, is what also drove me to overcome great mental, emotional, physical, spiritual, relationship, social, career and financial barriers. Once again studying many life disciplines, the lives well-lived and successfully climbing the corporate ladder were my saviours. I started to travel the world, bought my first property and just as I thought my life was finally sorted, in 2009, following the financial crisis of 2008, I was made redundant from a job I loved. To read the rest please click HERE!

Welcome to the discussions of exploration and today you're with your host Sabrina Ben Sami, and with my special guests, called Tony J Salini. Tony J Seleni as someone that I really admire and respect, and I feel very fortunate to be able to call him a friend. Tony, as an award winning author, filmmaker and one of the world's leading Business Mentors and life coaching specializing in human behaviors. To epitomizes the migrant dream. Growing up in Gostiva, a small town in North Macedonia, Tony came to the UK at the age of twenty with just two hundred and fifty pounds in his pocket and a small backpack on his back. He lived homeless, worked for eighteen hours a day and by twenty eight, against all odds, he had graduated from one of the top engineering universities in the UK, University College London. Two years later, he bought his first home and spent the next fourteen years developing global teams and leading billion pounds technology transformation programs. He shattered conventions by becoming a selfmade millionaire in the history of refugee teenage victims of war. Today, celebrities MP's, Lord's CEOS, entrepreneurs, authors, coaches, musicians, scientists, doctors, actors, people from all fashions and businesses, from all market sectors seek his expertise to effectively deal with addiction, anxiety, low self esteem, confidence, depression, grief, loss and developing to lit deliver simptons to their personal, professional and business problems. Internationally, he advises, mentors, coaches and speakers on subjects encompassing leadership, personal and Professional Development, employee engagement and empowerment, mental health, diversity and inclusion, stress management, business success principles, how to create series of books and sell millions millions of copies, wealth building and attaining financial freedom, selfmastery and the importance of spiritual intelligence in life and leadership. Tony, speaking consultancy expertise expands the to areas of entrepreneurship, mindfulness, careers, progression, start up, dissolving relationship, pomp for wonder of you can share of the listeners some of the platforms that you've been interviewed on, some of the like. I know that you've got an amazing list of interviews that you've had in conjunction to live in your illusion. Now I must thank you for inviting myself and my mother to the opening of that, which were absolutely remarkable, and you attract some media attention ABC, NBC, CB, yes, Fox, sky, etc. Could you tell us a bit about that journey before we get into our discussion? Yeah, sure. I mean my media attention started when I actually complished my first book. Up after wisdom are deliver balanced, healthy and peaceful life. It's little. I knew back then that my book will reach million copy bestseller and reach five times international best selling book on Amazon in multiple countries around the world. Started from two thousand and fourteen, fifteen sixteen, seventeen eighteen. So it's been like every year it's being picked up by different from marketing agencies, with that even actually paying me for marketing. So Book Bob, which is one of the biggest marketing stuff, got hold of my book. Somebody read it in that and they just advertising through their two point five million people string two thousand and eighteen again want the international best selling and it topped up the charts. I had all the teachers I used to learn from, such just Tony Robins ject. I can't feel dctor, Johnny Martini, Brian Tracy Depart, Chopra Brendan, all...

...of the steachs to it was a huge confidence and series alt of that, I started getting a lot of media attentions around the world. Wow, absolutely so. So far I've been interviewed on over five hundred TV, radio and podcasts and wishing over a hundred million people. So in one form of the other, they's more than hundred people are there who know about my work, know about the books. Don't have the mission to bring this unique method to transform the lives of one billion people, because I believe with all of my heart if people were to learn the twenty five principles within the book, after wisdom of a share to just in method a lot, they will be able to empower all the eight care survive as a result and consciously transformed. The evolution of human consciousness absolutely remarkable, absolutely remarkable. So leaving my illusion was a by product of that and even my illusion benefited as a result of that. Beautiful, beautiful. So we've been driving in my illusion through that absolutely wonderful so, as you've actually mentioned, living my illusion. I wonder if you can expand for the listeners with regards to what is that? Where can they find that documentary? When you know. Just tell us a bit more about that aspects of what you do. Well, the living my lusion project came as a CO creation between myself and two of my clients, who on a technology company who hired me initionary to build their technology to business, but in the process I ended up doing also relationship coaching and both of my class Demi and drawl. They felt so inspired that they put the camera and themselves to share their journey about the work that they were experiencing and the transformation this method in their life, in their business, in their life with their mental health, with their relationship, with their clarity about who they are and what they want to do in their life. So we filmed their journey and then we squeeze all of that into the first episode, which is called the truth hats, which for my fifty a birthday on twelve twelve, two thousand and nineteen, we launched it on Amazon prime so people can actually watch it. Ph numberson prime. Wow, amazing a way to celebrate your birthday and what a gift to the world. I love that you actually gifted such a price this tool to the world on your birthday. Se's amazing and thank you, Tony. And what I would like to do is like just just go back in time, because one of the things I really love about your journey is where you started. See often I find that people that approach me they often say, well, this is why I am I don't think I can do it, I don't think it's possible for me because I don't have what it means, I don't have the correct tools, I don't know the right people. But truth has it, when you came here to the UK, going back into your bio, you didn't have much. Well, not just I didn't have much of it, being I was fully mentally, emotionally, financially, familiarly, fully destroy it. I mean, if you think zero is the zero, I would say I was in minus one thousand because, as you can imagine, hopefully you can imagine, what it means like we live for a civil war. Where else you have an identity and suddenly all your neighbors and all the people you rob with become your enemies. So, apart from suffering through that, apart from being engaged and being taken from a school banks and being made forced to join the army and fight the war, I despised in my arm and on top of that, going through that work, going through that process and going through losing family members, identity, losing, you know, everything I've known. And then my life was saved and I need up homeless on the streets of London. And even then I had to battle with the ramification of as a teenager, of the post traumatic stress disorder that happens to many people are there who both for any form of trauma and, on top of that, trying to understand, you know, my mom's decision to save my life and I wanted to give my life to save my mom. So you know, it was extremely difficult times that no words can...

...really describe first few years in this country, especially on top of that I didn't speak the language and you're nothing about the culture and you're nothing about the support children can have and you nothing about what refugees can happen. Everything else anything. I knew how badly, back then Home Office used to treat refugees and migrants and the long ques in Kreid and and how you were treated like you at the lowest of the lowest of the lowest, without ever somebody coming out and asking a question. How are you? You know, do you need that drink and the countless calculess time I've been there and being rejected consistently, consistently being asked to provide evidence, while I was the evidence, while the whole world was showing the evidence, or TV and radio and in every format you can see, but still making your journey trying to settle down in a country after you're going through those traumats even more difficult in instead of opening up the support structure needed for children and other adults who escape work to be able to settle and being able to give them a new future. Wow, thank you so much, Tony. Tony, I thank you for being so open vulnerable with sharing the true essence of your beginning, because I feel that that is going to be such a treasure for our listeners, because I want you guys to recognize the fact that it doesn't matter where you start, and Tony's going to guide us like what did it take from here for him to get from where he was to where he is today? So I wonder if you can start to piece together what was the key elements that started to take form within you? Or was it external? was there some external triggers? Was it going on internally or was it combination of the two. I think it's combination of two and I believe for every human being it is a mus to have the combination of two. Otherwise will end up creating any illusion of who we are. MMM. So you know, when people, for instance, ask me why people would need a coach, and a lot of people have become coaches apparently, and not two people are know everything the reality, I give them a very powerful metaphor. So when people say everything, it's within I'll get all the answers and then when you look at their reality, they don't really have anything. So I said, well, if that is the case, you're reality would show the truth. So if you're reality is showing your struggling financially, if you're reality showing a single if you're reality showing you don't have a business, if you're reality story and you don't have money to pay for the things you want, if you're reality is showing you're struggling in many other areas from fly. So where is that wisdom that you keep telling yourself and keep creating the delusion? It's all within me. So so this is where I say people need to be very careful of what has been projected on there by many people in spiritual personal developer. Why? Because I give them the method for saying, yes, the earth has all the elements, that it took a band to take those elements and to manipulate them and create buildings, great restaurant straight through, create two trains, create the transport, create the communication system, create the technology. So did not create that. Okay, so it's the same. That's where a great mentor and Great teacher can help you with that. So I believe it's it's a combination of both of you doing your inner work, investing in yourself and learn as much as you can, but get a great mentor, great the great teacher, great somebody who can guide you and help you through that and make sense of your reality from a very different perspective. Because, you know, we didn't invent the rare mirrors in the cars for no reason. We invented them to be safe and to drive safe when we are on motorway. Similarly, we cannot see what's behind me. You can see right now, Sabina. I might see it on a screen in here, because I'm for the screen, but the reality we can't see it behind our back. This is where I always believe people we need everybody around us and what's inside of us, and then create this bridge and this is who, basically, I guess through I mean seing war and being homeless was just one of the adversities in Hashtag loneliness. When I wrote Hashtag learnerness I started thousands of people from around the world...

...started writing to me saying you wrote every chapter for me and what I'm sharing in in there it's I'm sharing every single adversity. is like this most sharpest knife that can sharpen you and can really reveal that God like creature that's inside of you, just like Lyon not to Dave, integrated the statue, I believe, through this sharp this pain, then we go through which is this knife that we feel and we bleed and you know, we feel the pain through that. It's what shapes us. And in being able to, you know, go through these things and being able to whatever you can to invest in your development of self, I think eventually your role get shaped and your role and your pathos get shaped according to how much pain you have transmuted into love and how much of those adversities have you been able to extract efficient ways so you can help other people. So when people asking it's about, you know all of this journey, in the journey is not been one thing. It's been so many things that really brought me to the place where I'm today. And you know, people admire the success of my the lifestyle run, the kind of clients I work with, but that's a thirty years of commitment and consistency and persistency that I've done into this work because in my heart I believe every human being has the ability to transform themselves and, in doing so, transform other people's lives. Absolutely. I hear from a little dicky but that you're right. In a book. Yes, are you and able to share any essence of this is I'm really intrigued that how you communicate so much for your books, you give away so much and I'm really excited about hearing about this new book. Are you able to spill any beans? I can share some's being one give you the entire recipe. Nurse like people find out it and what you're setting there. If it's yes, I'm sharing a lot of powerful things through books. Reason being I realize that the kind of clients that I work with, not everybody has the ability momentary to be able to invest the money and the finances for that. But I believe every human being has the ability to buy a book and to start that journey through a book. So, you know, it's a great start, you know, for author some there and for me to accumulate those thirty years of knowledge into a tool that people can use. So when I will tell you the journeys, like the three books, one about afterwards, on harsh like Loneness, if for purpose, leadership, book, number of free then and now the unfaithable code and the unfaithable code. It's really helping people to take off all of those master personas that they build over a lifetime and then get back into their essence and from that essence, being able to live life on their terms, because and also take back control. You know, it's a lot of people have lost control of the direction their life's going. So with like, for instance, if we look at the current crisis, with corona crisis, a lot of people are panicked, but my students, none of my students are panicking. Why? Because we've been doing their work and if you're doing this work, they have applied the method and they apply all the things that I'm teaching, including when it comes to help become financially free, which basically I've encouraged all of my students that whatever we make for that year, they put ten percent a side or if something happens, the business can continue for a year. So have liquid assets in the business. So whatever ups or downs on the economy, you're not driven emotionally. And unfortunately this is what's happening now because some, some people who are used as entrepreneurse, like moms like...

...yourself, where used to home school their children. At you don't find it very shocking because for you the light blows on every single day, but unfortunately, from a jointy of people in the world this is a shock and it will create that post traumacutic stress disorder. So I thought, let me bring a tool of that to help these people and help the young generation who are hiding behind technology and creating mastersoness about who they are and afraid to show their true, authentic being. So basically, the book is taking on a process of basically I'm peeling all those layers and actually understanding what authnicity means to you as an individual. And you are unfathable, meaning they no copy of you out there in the world, but you are made to believe you are not and you're made to believe that you are not good enough and you're made to believe that you have to hide yourself in order for you to speak as yourself. So there are many it's a journey and in there I'm actually revealing the code the people can use to consistently upgrade that mental, emotional, spiritual, financial, business faculties so they can really live life up freely on their terms. So economy does not dictate how you inside Biil know what's your reality around you, but you are smart about it. So you become a great, I would say, surfer of the waves of life. I really love that. I love that golden that you've shared. I just want to touch on the aspects of the shock, the post traumatic shock, and I know that you've discussed with me that you have set up and a crisis skype called specific for what's going on right now. I want, if you can, share that the listeners and then all alot simple questions thereafter. Absolutely, I mean one of the things what I've been doing since I've started my business in two thousand and twelve it's I've always offered for clients around the world who could not travel to where I was, whether London somewhere else, always after them skype sessions. But since the corona buyers would happened, I saw a lot of people almost like panicking and being in fear, not knowing how to navigate the UNSERVENT S for themselves, for people in May, the employed or if you're solo, Pronoun About Your Own Business or your clients and stuff like that. So, basically, because of my clients have been all already doing that, I very quickly adjusted my entire business into this very virtual office that you see around me. So straight away, all of my clients, we transformed their sections into those skype crisis management. Because the reality is each custon it's unique. Their values are unique, so is the business. So I really provide a very customize solution that my clients can we can go sit down first of all understand their reality. This is the first process of the crisis, to see what is it that they perceived as a crisis, and then I'm looking at understanding, creating a foundation for them to create a whole new think. For instance, I recently work with a business owner here in central London. Over the restaurant and Alto restaurant owners around the world are struggling at the moment. They have to lay off staff and everything else. But she worked with me every single day and we still working with her and she now, six weeks down a light, doubled her entire monthly income online business. So we transformed her entire business, restaurant business. While have first initial fears when we started working. She need to lay it down, the staff, that kitchen, all of that, all the products that are perishable will have to be thrown bla blah, blah, blah, Blah Blah. So very quickly, within a week, we transform that into delivery business, foot delivery, home made cooked delivery business. We created a whole brand new menu which is simplified. Many of the restaurant that it can actually provide very quickly turn around, for to supplying her pastomers. We informed all of her customers about that.

She's offering rectly made meal. So we turned her restaurant business in central London to be more profitable than ever in her life. I love reality is in crisis, they said blessing. You know history has taught us at you know, many philosophers out there have said the same thing. But what I see as part of the human behavior is the fact that our animalistic part of our brain, which is the Amigdala, kicks in from most people because they have not learned how to manage those internal faculties. And this is why I'm writing those books, this is why I right aafter wisdom, that's why I created to just emact got along. If people were to adopt those twenty five principles across all of the eight key critical areas of life, and they do it every single day. What they actually do in the upgrading their psychology in the same way they are break their APPs, in same way their breath, that technology. And in order for us to actually move forward through those crisis I believe in people managing themselves and being able to upgrade the psychology for the existing reality. You have much better chances for you to move forward in life and create the success and create the wealth, create the fulfillming, create the meaning. Wow you going through those termoils and learn all the lessons and then use also those lessons to help other people overcome whatever it struggles them. So those crisis sky crisis management sessions of for entrepreneurs up or business owners or professional people or leaders. Are have people, you know, from certain backgrounds, influential backgrounds, that basically they had to withdraw. You know, musicians anymore cannot go and have concerts. You know, they had to cancel concerts. A lot of tickers have to be refounded. I have actors who are the same. We cannot go and film anymore. So, you know, I have a lot of different people from different breakgrounds and some companies also hired my services to have certain key employees to be able to have one hour key sessions a week to be able to see what they can do during this time. Because basically, it what people most understand. It's this is the time where you must invest in yourself, invest in Your Business and see how you can help those employees to support you while you're going of this sing. So, whether this they're back, you actually ready glad there are several people. Wow, that's absolutely amazing to listen to. Thank you so much and if you're listening to this, I want you to really take heed of what Tony Sharing. I love the essence of the fluidity and flexibility. So there are a lot of people that go into trauma and they can tract and they go in woods, and that's okay. Initially we understand that it's okay to feel your emotions, but what Tony saying that after and by working with him, is that it hasn't gone away. The customers haven't gone away. It's just a different way of doing things. And when you have a coach in your life, like what you're say in the minerals are in the earth. It takes man to come along and to pull it out. So as we can't see our own blind spots, we maybe can't see the next steps, especially if we're in state of fear and trauma. And this is where Tony Sealini comes in, Jay Selmi comes in. So, Tony, I wonder if you can take us on the journey of what are some of the issues that people tend to face or that, I guess negative belief systems that stop them from working with a coach or mental because I've had some interesting code and conversations and people say, well, I don't need a mentor right now because there are things okay, and I'm like, well, actually, that's the whole essence of having a coach and mentor. It's not for you to be out bea wait for being sick. You have that in there to maintain your life so you can keep going on the right track. What would you say in response to that sort of essence? Well, I will first of all crash was myths. The kind of people I work they don't use that kind of language. So that's number one, meaning people who have the wealth in the background. They will never say I don't need a coach. Not met what any person so far who has any form of wealth in the background to tell you I don't need a coach. Okay, they will investigate what is it that you...

...can do for them and if they a fit they'll go ahead with it. But majority of people that I've had from people and in my past that come across it's people who struggle and they find that as an excuse. They use that as an excuse not to go forward in their lives. So you know, and it could be a very real excuse, that people don't have the wealth. But looking back at my own life, you know I never gave myself an excuse what I do to myself. It's the first thing I owe even I've taught many people who have approached me. You know I was working, I was doing a talk in the same stage as I can feel it, and I had few clients from that that came around when they said to me, Oh, we can't afford an expert like yourself. And then there was a lady who had a session with me that day before she went like, honey, you can't afford not to work with an expert like Tony, because it is an expert like Tony will give you anything. You're always dream and what I always tell people, if your heart truly want something, your mind will find a way. So I always say to people, instead of saying I can't afford it, I always try to help them refrain that in themselves, saying what is if I can do to make it happen. You know, that's a whole different, empowering way of looking at how personal development can help you. How it go trumentory Helove, there is a scientist, whatever it might be, out there can help you, because if you keep running, I think that program I can't afford you. You know, most people would tell me I can't afford you. Also, other people come to me. I believe in the law of attraction, and then I'm hearing them and they tell me this and I we're like, okay, you are delusional in on one hand you say I believe in a lot of attraction, on the other hand your language does not match that, your behaviors do not match, your attetuds don't match. So this is where the alarm method did you just in method. It's a about alarming you whether you are in alignment with that which you speak and that what you want. I love that. I love that. You know I totally I'm a big advocate for personal development and I say exactly the same thing to people, and I meant it. Meet them is that how can you food not to? And it really is a case not. How can you know? I can't afford it? It's like, how can we, how can this be possible? I find that it's in our language. Sometimes we've learned how to ask the question one way, so it ends up to be a yes or no answer, whereas if you say you know what would need to happen in order for this to take place, then you get the answer of what needs to happen and then you can move forward in that way. So I really love that's only I really do so with regards to the work that you do. Can you explain, I know you can't go into the essence of what you do in a detailed fashion, but can you explain the kind of journey that you have with your client as they invest in themselves with you, because I guess the different sections of what coaching is, what mentoring is, and it would be nice if they can get an eye open it to how you actually work with people. Well, this the two type of clients at work. The class who are individuals from all different professions, or solar proners or whatever the profession may be, and then I have clients who are business owners or businesses. So those start two different things and the processes that the first process is the same. So in the first consultation for individual clients it's at two our. Basically this is what I call the clarity consultation where in two hours I extract after them what is it that they want and what is it the reality that they want to create and what is the problem in between? So I make it extremely clear in detail, so they come out with tears of grattage at the end of those two sessions. And at the corporate level I usually recommend clients to book either half of the or full day depend have bit the businesses, and in there I go. And then I do the same process of understanding, first of all, the senior executives. What is it their vision? What are...

...their values, and see whether there is some match between that with what they're reality shows, and if it's not, I will make them see it until they have tears of graphite. You can say, Oh my God, we are living an illusion. We expecting something but we are not doing that which we want that matches the expectation. And then I look at the senior managements, their perceptions of their executive perceptions of the rest of the people, and then I look at them. What is the most important three things they want to established and they want to create by and of one year working with me. You know, this could be people development, could be leadership, could be increasing their properits, could be creating your products. It could be, you know, dealing implementing efficiency, their mental health, or maybe they have problems to diversity with inclusion, maybe they have conflicts. Maybe sometimes I had clients who just hired me to sit silently in the meeting to understand the negotiation process that they do with big clients and then give them feedback, that I actually make a note and I tell them the results before they even happens, because I can understand the human energy field, which I talk about getting hashack loneliness, that we have the ability to communicate with one another before we even open our mouth. So you know, my clients sign their check before I even say anything. Okay, so it's the first process is really identify. This is why this unique work is so unique, because it's custom made to you. And when it's custom made to you, you know, I've had people saying or I'm like you. I said really said, have you have you got a master's know? Have you started engineering? Know? Have you started psychology? Know? Have you dont on't this? Know? Have you been in the world? Know? Have you set the work? I don't know how many thousand people know. If you don't know work, fiftyzero mentoring. Know. So how are you like me? So this is when I catch the bullshit that people tell you, and we are so used to telling bullshit until somebody like myself comes in there and catches you in your own words. So you know I'm a bullshit and a liar casher, because the first thing to improvement is to to be able to see that in yourself. And this is where when I'm talking about the unfacable code, and I think you know that the first chapter, I think it's still relevant to what we're talking about, is the first chapter is called take of the mask, meet your soul. Okay, so that's one, one little sick for anybody else he has about this. So just that on its own, if a person sits and meditates on that and if they somebody what they work with them, you have no idea how much information gets would be out about you, about your life, to about your bullshit, about the things that you're not doing or you don't know how to do. So this work is very unique and this is a lot of the clients have done a lot of personal development of workshop. They will work, they've gone through Seremonaris, they've done a lot of things. They end up coming and working with me privately. Why? Because my focus, my entire taty years of wisdom is focused on them. So it's a very unique experience. At each client, whoever I work with, they can tell you about it and you know, I've got loads of testing early also very powerful people. So for me it really gives me joy to be able to use it. That the years of really helping people to wake up to their greatness, not just wake up using the words that wake up, that their reality transforms in alignment with that which they speak, say, think, feel and love. Wow, wow, you're making it so difficult for me to talk to you pert tod to you, Tony. I just want to listen, like I love what you're saying. You See, one of the things that I really get intrigued by is how easily we are to...

...picking up the mask in the first place. And I think this starts way down in childhood, that we're always taught that being us is not good enough. You know, one of the reasons I've parmented my kids the way I do that you've got me so excited, my head just buzzing with all these different thoughts that I want my children to learn as young as possible being them is okay. The trouble is we get we get bogged down by washing away who we are. So about a time we get to adulthood, we have no idea. Half of us don't even know the process is taking place. What would you say around that, around how we because sometimes when I hear people say we're in a mask. Is like some people feel that they've done it intentionally. I know some people do do it. They go out purposely, they'll put on and they go, okay, now out there I'm Lisa, inside I'm Sam. But some people don't realize that they've been wearing a mask their entire life. But it's been such a slow process, has been taken place over a long period of time they're not even realizing it's happened. I wouldn't say they wouldn't realize. What I say is maybe they don't have the awareness. Well, when think words into what they experiencing, because that unfakeable self, which I'm talking in the Book Surbinger, I'm so driven with my heart that I write every paragraph that I know every child around the world, every adult around the world, every parent around the world, every married, couple, single, whatever sexuality, whatever religion, they would read it will awaken this wisdom inside of them. So I know this exist in them. So there's no person on the planet, no matter where they experiencing their uncertainly, can shake my knowing. And when you show up with that level of certainty within yourself in somebody who is uncertain. This no choice, but that knowing to wake up okay, and that's why I believe that, basically, this is so important. Now, people are they doing? This is why I want you to get this book out, through this process and get it out, because as as we go through this corona viruses, a lot of people are disorientated with their lives. So those mask that maybe people may not know, but the reality is their untakeable being that authentic, being inside of them themselves, although they might not know the worst, it knows you are faking it, it knows you are lie if those you are not being what you can be. And this is why I went on this journey, because this is why my heart was like, I'm going to bring this work to one billion people and I'm going to teach her all the water. I'm going to work with clients, I'm going to change your education, health care. I'm going to bring this work in business, in leadership and in politics around the world. And for some reason I'm getting clients for all the different things and, as I mentioned, alien in our private conversation with Doctor Amnother, for instance, who's been working with me for five years, being exposed to this teachings and invest in a lot of money. I'm not shape and I don't into the Chap I could. You know, my parents used to say, if you want the best, go for the best, and the best does not come cheap. So and my clients know that. So they don't even you know, they don't even try to bring my prices down. They just one another price and that's the journal. And they say I could have paid you double if you asked. So this is a clients if you have the value. And because I've been investing in myself for thirty years. You know, I did not invest in buildings, in cars and in all the things that people invest I invested in knowledge and now I'm use it that not to create everything, not just only for me, for everybody I work with it. So you know, in ourselves this knowledge exists. So for me it's just opening out that knowledge. And for those people who potentially may think they don't know, reality is when I ask them questions, it's go straight away, Oh wow, so excited. I cannot recommend that you get...

...the book enough. Like I love the way Tony described it, because although you maybe live in the illusion reading the pages of those that of those books and you know all three of them. The third ones come in. Reading the pages of those books will reveal to you the truth that you've been hiding from yourself and from the world. Okay, and I can read you a paragraph, please. Do I think going for a tree, because because I mentioned to you the first chapter. So I'm going to read you that. You and all the listeners around the world, your son, the first stuff. So let me get the first second. Very kind of you, very, very kind of you. So I you know, just as a recap, I love the essence of Tony Though, in saying that you are so unique. There is no one like you in the world, no matter if someone's had a similar journey, there is no one that, as my daughter would say, that can sing your song, walk your walk or dance your dance. So absolutely like the Chinese. Ready, every ready. So basically, I'm gonna read you and they introduction, the the first part of the chapter. Thank gold, take of the mask. Your soul is waiting and whoever is listening to this interview, I would love you to spend few minutes just on that, meditating. Okay. So, somewhere deep inside of you, behind every master persona you show to the world patiently awaits your soul. How true is that? Into it you know there's any intelligence within the equally frightens and then empowers you, a resourceful intellect that guides you in every awakening moment of your physical and spiritual life, a teacher and a student, patiently awaiting your instruction, somewhere, hidden in the Kingdom of your soul, with a knowledgage of something much more importent than your present moment awareness of it. You have a power and annoying of what your soul calling in life is that no one else around you can explain in ways you can. Ah, that's beautiful. Thank you for that gift. That was an IMFORMT you, gift that I really appreciate and receive open hearted lie. I absolutely love what you shared and I think the whole of humanity right now can benefit so much by hearing those words. So I really like you're listening to this. I really encourage you to share this within your network and even with strangers. You know, I think now's the time for really giving and sharing and caring from a true essence. See how you can show up as the true you, because I feel that some of us know exactly what we want to do, who we are, but we're so frightened about the greatness and I'm leashing that on the world and, just like Tony saying, the world's waiting for it and you've waited way too long to actually reveal the truth, essence of who you are with the world. So I'm I'm kind of mincing on my words because I'm just reflecting on the text that you shared, Tony, and I and I thank you because I you know, hearing the words that you echo into the world and the journey that you've had, it really shines light to the true testament of the level of commitment you had to have for your own personal development, for not giving up, because I'm sure they would have been times when you wanted to give up. I'm sure there would have been times when you just fought it. I don't know how I'm going to get through this, but you kept going, even trying to kill myself. Yeah, well, I'm through side. And so all of those things have gone through my life and people who read my journey fully in afterwards that I shared just a...

...bit but in Hashtag Longness, what I wanted to do before I share them the concept of oneness. It's to understand where I came and to be able to map up that journey for themselves of where they came and where they heading. Because in I knew in my heart if I if I cannot be transparent and open with my pain, with my struggle, with my suffering and with everything that I would say to the stollats of me and be open with every human being out there on the planet, any sentient being there on the planet, there's no way I could be a great teacher in great service to mankind. So my calling was to be of service globally. And what I say to people often people try to trump far ahead. You know, I want to change the world, but you cannot change the world unless you've changed your own world first. You know, you cannot go out there change the world if your own situation in your life, your finance is your everything, your own house in it's in order, if your children, your family, the people around you, you haven't helped. Okay, so people who who I've met and inspired me and now support me at the same level as themselves, including the Martin in putting drawn they now, they said to me ten years ago, turning your on a journey to stand up the shoulders of the biggest giants humanity has ever had. And now I am there, and you know, being there is only because of that commitment, both mental, emotional financial, in every single way, I knew in my heart why I am what I want to do and I knew that since I was a kid. So the journey to write about the wisdom. It wasn't really when I was made redundant and I was threatened again living on the streets and my my, my flat that I both which where I'm here, was about to be taken away by the bank, and all of that. I can play my mortgage. So you know, all of those things, when I put put that together, all of those things, in a way, they can crash your mind and your perception of it, but it cannot crush the eternal being inside of you. And I think this is where you know, some people said to me, because I've studied many comparatively religions, some people label me as mostly in, other people as Christians, other people as Buddhist, as a people as this. Well, I am all of that and I I am if you call it God, if you care it spirit, if you call it whatever you might call it. I am part of that and I think we are all part of light, that energy, that intelligence, that God that created everything. But it's a human mind that judges and separates, and I think at some point in history there will be I think the level of awareness will come together that basically all of those religions, comparative a religious to come back into one voice. Why? Because our awareness of what's out there will become bigger and then we will see that all of those things that stepped us for thousands of years not necessary anymore. will serve a conscious evolution of people who don't want to be labeled anymore, who don't want a mask, okay, who don't want to be separated by religion, by creed, by color, by sexuality, by by whatever diplomas you received. Okay. So what I'm talking about in the unfacable book? It's about how to waken the true, authentic power and in my belief, no matter what religion you belong, if you don't have that UN fakeability inside of it, there's no way you'll be in one with God. No matter what religion you are, okay, no matter what religion. I love in respect all of religions are there because for me they are teachers, but the person who elevates themselves above that will...

...see the universal order that they are in there to shape you and you are ready for true connection with God, and true connection with God is through our spirit rous spirituality. Wow, wow, wow, wow. Yeah, yeah, I'm just soaking that out. I came, I know, I was very grateful that you invite us to your book launch for Hashtag Loneliness, and I must say that I see that a lot of the emotional trauma that we're going through and the pin it and this is like the root cause, and I love that you've somehow, and I really don't know how, you've managed to write book after book that really gets to the core of what's going on. You know, Hashtag loneliness is the root cause of a lot of people's anger, disconnect you know, lack of self worth. Is that the fear? I love when you say it's like being in your truth, because I really love the saying that only there, your true shall set you free, because when we're out there trying to be something that we're not, and this is what I had to accept on my own personal journey of Selfdiscovery, and this is what I tell my kids, is that when they're growing up, it's all really called being a part of, you know, Friendship Circle. But are you you? Because if you're not you, it's not worth it, because the truth of who you are. And if you're scared, say you're scared. So I oh, I'm not scared, you're not scared, we're not scared together and then you go home and you're scared. I would rather be uncomfortable about putting my hands up at that moment and getting over what the issue is rather than living with that for the rest of my life. And I really urge you, as a listener, to go out and purchase both of these books that are currently out and the third one that's coming, because I think it will really, I don't think, I know, it will help you to get to the root cause of what's going on, because right now I look at people and to say that I've really heard a lot of people be honest, they're not. Sometime I say are you lonely, and they say well, no, I'm okay, I've got friends, but I'm not. I'm not asking you to prove to me, me, I'm asking you a question or you lonely, because if you're lonely, it's okay. Just say you're lonely and then we at least know where we're going to start, from point a to get you to point exist. And telling. What would you like to share around the aspect of loneliness? Well, I mean after the success I've created with path to wisdom and the clarity brought to myself and to everybody I serve, the more I started traveling and teaching my vital planning forever vated leaving, which is a private coaching mentoring experience, but the more I started seeing how separated and lonely would become true technology. So, although I love technology for it does and everything else, but it should not be a substitute for human connection. It should be just an extension of who they are as the tool rather than sort of a lot of people are using it as that. So every airport I went to, people stop conversing the way they used to before. Frankly, you know, if I could compare my travels when I was working in technology before, like let's say before two thousand and ten, between two thousand and two thousand and ten, more people were talking to me at airports random people around. People were talking to me wherever I was traveling. Now, in a culture, I grew up in northern Macedonia. By the time you go to the next time, you know the entire bus, you know the entire stuff. So I've used it, you know, being social with people, and I love being now, but I've not noticed in London and taking the tube while I was working in the group. But well, every day I will take the cube and people will not even speak to you. All of the will be the same people for the whole year. You go into the same carriage, we will have our preferred carriage, we will learn about which carriage will get US fast on the other ground and then we use the same carriages, you know, and then we meet the same people and it is becomes strange to strike a conversation just sitting next to somebody, you know, without people being suspicious of you. And I was like wow, I mean what happened to the human element, you know, what happened to the connection that we have with one of another? What happened to our default need to connect and share and learn and...

...be curious and, you know, just smile and get to the person, even for it is for five minutes and minutes on the journey without those thoughts in our heads that people label as negative, of what they want for me. You know, why are you and all of those things that come from judgment, instead of being present. And again I was stressed. Usually it's the same people would tell let's be present, let's be on, let's be loving, let's be this and let's be at but if you observe them in reality and none of that. Okay. So I really really felt. Let me write about the loneliness. It's above and also, fortunately for me, I also met Mother Theresa, when I was very young with my mom, and she's Albanian and you know, she was born in Macedonia and she traveled the world and one of the things that she was a huge Amo. So that it's about loneliness. So I said, you know that my mother went for loneliness after my father passed away. So and then I looked at the corporate londerless when I still working, going to the I would say big offices and I would ask things, and then they work together for five years that they don't even know each other. So I saw there was spiritual loneliness, there was loneliness in business, those loneliness when I travel, there's loneliness with people who lose their partners. There's loneliness with parents also, who lose their children, which is tremendous voy with out there and I said, how can I help these people to rely get back to their essence of who they are so they can reconnect that lot within? And you know the Martini when he wrote the forward from hashtack loneliness, he calls it about for a restless soul. Beautiful, you know. And having a teacher like that and you know people who have inspired me now they getting inspired by my work. It's really a testament that I'm on the right track and I keep going and keep evolving and keep seven more people out there. So, you know, the idea is to bring it to as many people as possible. The ideas to get a lot of events organizers for me to go and speak and teach this method, to go to schools, to go to universities. I've started doing that, creating licensing modules from primary school, Secondary School and be a university level, saving business to be able people who just use the method and really create those con actions, meaningful connections, because when you have a meaningful connection with somebody, you are more likely to do business with them. We are more likely to share experiences, you're more likely to share knowledge, you're more likely to work around the solution. Now we've seen that part of it now to coronavirus, where people are coming a bit together to really support one another. But I talked about that. It's going to happen in Hashtag loneliness in two thousand and sixteen. Four years ago, I even deliver a tedtalk called technological armorgathm a wakeup call. So I want humanity. Something like this is is gonna be happening any happened. So I've worked humanity on many levels and some people listen and some people didn't listen. Those people who are used to the world that I've done with them, they listen. They put those measures in place. So now they're not panicking. We just creating the next cycle of growth and we destroy whatever is not selling them anymore. We go to the next level. But loneliness, when I started doing the science behind that, because for me, although I'm a scientist and engineering, but I spent thirty years understanding healing world, the spiritual side of things and for me. What makes difference and unique for my clients is this breach that I create for them of my material and spirit world, because this bridge is essential for you to empower your life. And a lot of people they say, Oh, I'm not spiritual, that when I go and ask millions of questions of them, they they realize, they wake up and say, Oh my God. And...

...then a lot of people who tell me I'm spiritual, I don't know how matter with me asking a lot of questions, suddenly they realize that they are one. And you know, for me, I said too many people. If you are seeking spiritual people and you see the spiritual people don't have any wealth. I'm not saying they're not good, but I'd saying that they both need to do some work to be able to transform material wealth into spiritual Wi, a spiritual wealth into material wealth. And when somebody reaches that level, it really you can inspire a lot of people. Why? Because by default we are yearning for that. We are cold to be able to express ourselves. Our spirit wants to do everything it can. So no matter what you achieve in your life, you will never be satisfied. That I will tell you right now. So stop living the illusion and you sometimes will be satisfied. Why? Because you are that God inside of you. And the Chapter I'm writing right now I talk about this. You are that got inside of you that basically, no matter what it achieves, it wants something new. You will destroy something doesn't serve. And if we look that nature tells us exactly the same process. So you know, I see people they say nature own, nature tells us, but they're not listening in themselves exactly what nature is telling them. So also they know that balance. Know, they said chapter in Hashtag Loneliness, and I strang highly recommend everybody to read it. Why? Because he will give you this harmony between self and nature. So the one like it's duality, the nest of solitude, and I recommend everybody who's interested in that to really read duality. The next for solitude. So it's it's in page one of three and I'm just going to share with you how I start the chapter and with our audience. So the nest of solitude. Okay, so if people were to really again go back, most of my clients that don't you. You need that hundreds of thousands of facility because just this discrumbled. One sentence from you to bring the wisdom matter. One sentence. Recently, I was reading again, like you, and all the people are listening to this. To my clients in America, Te Mean Them ISM. It was an amazing relationship and and intuitive. That works with other people. So I've created a seventh series of most amazing books for are to be number one in America, and we are on that journey now. She said to me, don't you we just need hundreds of thousands of facilitates is to be able to discrimble your language. But let me share with you. With you're alone and feeling lonely, rejected, I'm careful and isorated. It's hard to see the positively, see positives in your life, the side of your life where you feel connected and loved. I will share with your an important existential factor that makes it hard for you to identify the scute perception that cause their internal disconnect what that will share is a fact of life that stops many from overcoming loneliness and adversity. The most difficult part of your journey to connectedness, love and living in whatness is becoming aware of your traits adversities. Habits, values they have, course you to disconnect in the first place. Wow, I love that. I love it. You know what I love. And if you are listener, listening to this, I know Tony's described lots of different situations and scenario and if, for any reason you go, well, I'm in a relationship and I got my children, I haven't lost anyone until well, that's not really for me. One thing you have to...

...understand. Loneliness affects us all in different ways in the matter of our situation. You may be in a marriage where you seem to be the only one shown up in the relationship. Your Your Daddy, it gave her every day physically, but there's no connection. So the aspect of loneliness that Tony is conveying is every aspect and be something in the boilk that will connect with you. You may have children, you may have a very large family, but the chances are maybe you've never been your true self around them. Maybe you can't really connect and have those conversations that you want to have. So that's also another variation of loneliness. So don't feel that there's something physical having to be missing from your life. Loneliness can just be a case of you just feel alone in your family, misunderstood, unheard and unseen. Yes, I mean it's one of the things I've worked with so many parents to be able to establish better connection with their children or work with children who had addictions as a result or not performing at school. And for any parents out there listening right now, and if you have that thing saying, well, I'm not, I would, I would love you to ask yourself this simple question, and the simple question is, is your child more open to their friends or to you? HMM, that's a good way. So, in that simple question, if you have to make a list, not just think about it, but actually start writing down, you'll be shocked at the loneliness you will experience because your child is not as close to you as it's close to somebody else, which is totally not even the person who pays their bills based their schooling. Worship them. Every single they makes makes up their bad I carried nine months in the warm and went through all the hard shifts and suddenly a total stranger becomes more connected to your child in yourself. And this is a problem like I see lobally with all the parents. I don't tell me is we've last this connection, we've lost control of our children. So that's on. It's one trace loneliness. Yes, I can definitely agree with you. I have definitely heard that. I've heard many parents have in that trauma. And and here's the thing. Now you've got some tools that you can reach out, listener and actually delve into. This is all about your personal journey. Like Tony said, the services that he provides a very bespoke. It's not a cookie cutter formula that he does the same thing of everybody's. About your personal journey, because your unique and what you're going to bring to the world is also unique. To be amazing if you can allow yourself to embark on that journey and see where it takes you, reflect on the essence of what's the reality of your life. Where are you at right now and it I don't want you to think purely about what people can see on the outside. I really want you to reflect on the inside with regards to are you happy you see sometimes we get caught up on the materialistics, the synthetics of how people see it and how it feels when people see it. But when you go home, how are you feeling? But yeah, I wonder if you can share. Is anything else you wanted to discuss and go into if the listeners, because we are going through this some massive crisis around the world where all this have been charted and everything else I would love to share. We seem to have lost sound, Tony, just pause a minute, look out. What I would love to share and live for the audience rip is couple of strategies they can use right now to try to deal with the uncertainty the COMD has made in their life. Now, first and foremost, I would love you to think about your health. And the reason I would love you to think about your health because it's your immune system that can easily create those antibodies. And if you are having any form of uncertainty, any form of fear, any form of panic, you actually what you doing. You put in your Magdala at overload. In doing so, it creates a lot of chemical reaction inside of you that actually drops your immune system, which makes you more prone to actually catch the virus or if you even if you could the virus, be able to fight it. So what I would say? First of all, putting your agenda on a daily basis. What is it...

...that you can do that inspires you. This will keep your Amkedolla at Bait and write down those inspiring actions with whatever you value in your life. So, if it's your family, do things to your children. If it's your business, two things that actually grow your business. If it is, you know, socially, goal on here. We go on facebook and create what's up books and do things like that that really inspire. But do actions on a daily basis that keeps you on your front to front, a frontal cortex that basically have a clear vision for your life and Let the vision drive you, because when you let your vision drive you, your vision inspires you. Yes, I absolutely love that. I love thank you so much. That so only because is one of the things we've been talking about since we've been in this situation is that the vision is the postcode for the soul. So I love the fact that you're saying to them be focused. Be Focus with the vision. What is it that's going to inspire you every day? Don't spend days just setting from the TV watching what's happen in next watching a doing gloom. Actually take harness of your life and be in control and move forward. Tony, it's been an absolute pleasure talking to you. It always is. I am in awe of everything that you do, and this is always been the case and it's every time I speak to you. It's like I meet you for the first time, Bigett, and it's really inspiring. I really love the fact that, in order for you to call upon the truth for others, you first had to seek out your own truth, and I love, Love, love that. I love that when when a coach or mental is able to be the student and then be the teacher, but also being able to mentor others, and then that the student becomes the teacher. I love that essence of you, Tony. I really love the ability for you to do that, and I really thank you for what you're doing, for you, for us, for mankind for ever and for myself as well, and just by, you know, just being in our lives, the way you pour into people. It's beautiful. You always there. It's really nice to be able to speak to you personally and, you know, just being in our lives. Tony, I really thank you for that and you know, you know where to find me if it's anything that I can ever do and list enough, as you're listening to this. So I want you to really be open, really be open to what Tony is really shared with you, because I know that there are so several golden nuggets that Tony is actually shared, but I really want you to receive it from a premise of new understanding, not from okay, I might have heard this before, I might know that before. What if you just choose to just bring out a new canvas, a blank canvas, and start from today, implement in what Tony Saying, because I find that people go knowledge is power. Knowledge is power, and it's a bit like what and the analogy Tony used about taking minerals from the earth alone. It's nothing. is in the implementation of. So there's no point just listening to this and say no, it sounds good, and I once listen to something that really sound good. It's in the implementation of. So please go ahead and implement the guidelines that Tony is actually put out. But, more importantly, please go ahead and research, go online and purchase copies of Tony's book and actually getting contact with Tony. Contact is company, you know, booking a consultation call, discovery call, because until you're in the hot seat you don't really know what it is until you experience it. Don't just take my word for it, don't just read it and testimonials. Go and have the experience so you have firsthand experience for yourself. So for me it's thank you and goodbye. And Tony, thank you so much for joining me here. Thank you for that butter of my heart to you and all the listeners. Thank you. Take care.

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