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Life According To Sabrina Ben Salmi BSc
Life According To Sabrina Ben Salmi BSc

Episode 39 · 2 years ago

Episode #39: Interview: Philip Sykes founder of The British School of Etiquette

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

PHILIP SYKES


As founder and Principal of The British School of Etiquette, Philip’s passion for etiquette, manners, quality and service has led him from the wine hills of South Africa’s Cape to the world’s most dynamic cities in a career spanning more than 25 years.

From his early days working in prestigious hotels and owning one of South Africa’s top ten restaurants to setting up The Heritage Academy with HRH Prince Charles as the patron, Philip has always believed the adage “it’s not what you do but how you do it”.

Set up in 2013, The British School of Etiquette was borne out of Philip’s desire to help people become the very best versions of themselves to achieve success in both their personal and professional lives.

Philip brings his outstanding interpersonal and motivational skills to every course he runs and effortlessly puts people at ease with his charismatic approach. It is testament to his enthusiasm and relentless drive that the school is the only one of its kind to become accredited by CPD, Investors in People and ILM (part of City & Guilds) and is now a Centre of Training Excellence.


https://thebritishschoolofetiquette.com/about-us/philip-sykes/

My name is Sabrina Ben Sammy and welcome to discussions of exploration. Today I'm joined with a very, very special guest called Phillips likes. I am in all of the amazing work that he does at the British School of Etiquette. He is the founder of this amazing, wondrous establishment and here in his team delivers so much value globally and I'm really, really honored to be able to invite him here as a guest to share their magic that he does. Philip, can you please introduce yourself to the listeners to bring a firstly, thanks for this amazing opportunity and for those listeners out there, everything is jump at the opportunities that you get presented with, because one opportunity can change your life for the rest of your life and and I truly live by that. And you know, just before I sort of give my self introduction, it's very much about exactly what Sabrina is about, is about giving and helping other people and this is what we do in this world and this is very much what the British School of it ticket was founded on. It was found and on the opportunity to help as many people in this world as possible, and I feel very strongly that a lot of people in this world think that it ticket and manners are a nice to have, whereas actually, more so than ever before, this is very much in need to have. This is a this is something that can change your life in every single way, form and and send you in so many different directions, not just your personal life, not your social life, your business world, every single element of our lives. It influences and impacts and learning good etiquette and manners goes far deeper than just sitting around a dining room table with a knife and fork. It really does. It really re focus on emotional intelligence, we focus on the importance and power of body language, the importance in the power of the pain, in other words, handwriting letters and notes and engaging, corresponding with people outside of the digital world, learning to connect with people on all the various platforms. We talked about a brand that we have called ticky ket and Internetiquette, which are both trademark names. And again we teach in work with people on how to align yourself on your various platforms, how to engage on a professional level through your email etiquette and now, more so than ever before, we are engaging more and more online with people. So we are running workshops and programs on how to really set yourself up for that perfect zoom call, that skype call, set yourself up to really make a while impact and connect with people. Even though you're not seeing in facetoface, you still have this ability to connect over the Internet with people. So those are just that, just scratching the surface. And here at the British coool of etiquette we're about to launch one of the most phenomenal eque programs. It's going to be known as emotional etiquette or leading with emotional intelligence, and Sabrinea to your audience, is something...

...that you are a fantastic of doing is putting books together for people and helping people, you know, take their their verbage and their passion and put it into writing. And something that I'm going to be doing in the not distance near, not to distance future, but is working with Sabrina to get a lot of our sort of written material online and onto paper so that people can purchase what we've had to share with the people, with the world out there, that you can really just, you know, sit and relax and read up a few bits of guidance and steering and advice and help that can push you out of your comfort zone but really sit you on the right direction. Excellent, exciting times ahead, it sounds for you in the team amazing and I felt I wonder if you can start by telling listeners about a bit about your story, because it's one thing about you. Know, this is what I do now, but it's like, where did this start? Where the British stall of etiquette come from? Why do you I totally agree with you. It's some it's a must have. It's not kind of manners. Everyone thinks that etiquette is purely manners. I'm so glad that you mentioned about emotional intelligence, and this was what literally got me jumping out of my seat saying I've got a connective Philip, I've got to get my kids on your courses, because I totally get it. I know that it's a difference between being a successful entrepreneur and being an extending, outstanding entrepreneur, and that's the difference, but I know that you bring to the table and this is why I'm very, very grateful to have you part of my spiritual family. What I like to revert to it as a got person that I know that if I've got a meeting to prepare for, if there's any business negotiation going on, I know that who I need to come to to have those conversations to help prepare me for such things, absolutely and beautifully put some being. And this is what this is about. This is a going above and beyond, always under promise and over deliver. This is what it's all about and I'd love to share my story with you. I have to thank my mum, and I think that's mums woman, for me, of the most wonderful creation here and more powerful than thing anyone really understands or even admits, because you amazing, wonderful people. Woman, take on so much on your shoulders. It's not just raising a family, but is doing so many other things and almost take on too much. So my mum was born in mid Africa and, as you can imagine, into quite a colonial environment, and so in managers an a ticket to instilled in her from a very, very young age. Her parents were very it's called Prim and proper. They were willed, you had and were they were very, very clear on the importance of etiquette and manners. My mom went and all girls school, my father was educated in the United Kingdom and went out to Africa in the s after leaving Oxford University...

...and again brought up in that same vein of Etiquett and manners. And so I was the eldest or for on the eldest of Ford and we were all very fortunate and going to great schools which instilled very strong ethic and ethical being and upbringing and manners and the the old adage manners Maketh for man, and I would put that manners maketh man or woman is run rings true and runs very much as part of the way we were brought up and and mom and dad were fastidious and following that up. And even today, in my dear I said, my early fifty s, Momi still correct me if I had love. Yeah, so even now in my early fift s, mammal still correct me and I love it. I know she so on point when it comes to knowing the right thing to do and and this is, you know, onondering when people to understand. Is it Itaque the man is not early for the posh people it's all smart and Blah, Blah Blah. You know, this is very much about building character. This is about giving you confidence to really handle yourself in any situation. And you know, I about three or four. There's a guy. She phoned my mom up and I said, mom, I really want to thank you so much for what you've done for me. She says, Philly, where you don't need to thank me. In my son this it's normal, I said moment. Actually I do, because you've given me the ability to do what I do in my life, and I'm so fortunate to do what I do every day. I am passionate about what I do and if I had never had that upbringing and that consistency of you call it nagging, called pushing, called it sort of being persistent with me and in the true form, I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing today. And I know this this is topped up with all the other experiences that come through life, but it was her, she was the pillar, she was the foundation for me and my father, obviously in the sense of really being able to leverage your for this, this amazing upbringing that I had. And you know, we we're very fortunate family. We didn't go without, but we weren't one of those families that sort of could jump on an airplane any given time, but my father worked exceptionally hard to send us to good schools. Having left school, I wasn't quite sure what I wanted to do and so I came over to the UK for the first time and I was like a rabbit in front of headlights. This is this is mid s and you know, I'm living in Camden town in my eye as well as stalks. And this job was was working at the hard rock cafe and Hyde Park Corner, cleaning tables. Yeah, and cleaning tables and often jumping in to the dish room where my Nigerian fring Jimmy would be working and if he had day off, I jump in and take his role, and it was very much a full year of learning to engage with people at all different levels and bus boys. We didn't have we couldn't get promoted at the only way you can get promoted was working on the door behind the bar, and...

I was fortunate within the first seven months I am ended up being a host on the door. Having finished up at the hohome rock cafe. After spending a year, they are decided to go and do a ski season and for me it was an unbelievable opportunity to learn how to ski properly. And then I went back to Africa in the mid S and mid etight actually, and I'm joined one of the finest restaurants in the country as a waiter and that was for me one of the most unbelievable foundations in learning the fundamental aspect of engaging with people on all levels. It topped up what moment and still to me it topped up with the school didn't still near top about my personality. It was about precision, it was about attention to detail and that for me was a real while. And it was one of the top restaurants in the country. was known as the colony restaurant and unfortunate is so long around there today, but the owners of it work phenomenal and the training we got was amazing. I then joined hotel school and while I was at hotel school I was still watering at the colony restaurant. And the hotel school was three years, two years actually in academia and the year in industry. And my first year, first six months of my academic or my practical year, was at the Mountain Nelson Hotel, which is a famous, famous hotel in Cape Town we are, worked in the food and beverage department under a great chef, and then I worked in the catering as, in the functions area and working in the various restaurants, and that's every thing. In my final six months was working in front office at a top wrist top hotel, so getting involved with engaging with greeting guests, and then also working, funny enough, in the housekeeping department, so cleaning the rooms with the team and then moving up to the next level until you got to supervise the level. And so you went. You would really push to all the different areas that you were able to tear up and learn from the bottom and move yourself up. Having lived there, came over to UK back this time. No qualified from hotel school to my first job was at a lovely little Boutique Hotel and nights bridge, running the small food and Beverage Department for the lownds hotel and for the first time in its history actually I generated a small profit out of this little braseri because it was very much there for the guests use rather than the public, and we started to draw a lot of public people into this little brass Aerri and hold few functions and it took off like a little rocket. I then, again, Sabrine, had this burning desire to to set up my own business and I went back to Africa and I set up a restaurant in Cape Town along with a colleague and a great friend of mine, Jeff, and he and I set up this business, a restaurant called pages in time, and time was not like the herb thhyime and I was set in this amazing one thousand nine hundred and Victoria and home, hundred seats, a restaurant and...

...fine dining and and. But the fact was it was all about making sure that every person I walk through that door had an amazing experience and as a result, that business went within the first year. It's becoming one of the top restaurants in the country. And again, I always love to share with people it wasn't because the food was amazing. Yeah, the food was good, it was hitting the eights and nines and ten's out of tens, but it was all over experience. It was very, very much about that attention to detail. So, for example, if you came in and had a meal with us and we got engaging and chatting, and that's something and I noticed you swapped your cutler around because you were left handed. The next time you came in your cuttery would have already been swept around. We will remember which wine you ordered. We would make and, bearing in mind there was no proper digital technology to record all of us, all of this was hand written in notes. So every single customer had a handwritten profile. And this is where we went. We made we made a difference to go the extra mile for guests and of right across the board. Having sold that restaurant late into D and ninety seven, I came back to the UK, this time for good and I want you to put the hospitality sector behind me. It's hard work and it's wonderful, but it and it's still my killies heel. It said love hate relationship. I do. I do have a burning passion for it still, and that's what I think helps me and drives me with the British School of Etiquette as well, because we do incorporate service excellence and customer service and working with butlers and airline stewards and, you know, v IP staff for yachts and private aircraft, so that I still get the opportunity to work with people in the hospitality sector per say. My job this time run was actually getting into banking of all things. I had a friend in a recruitment company WHO said, look, I can get you putting the door, and she did. And I did a year working for and a brand which is well known. It's country called foreign colonial mid office. Learned, had a step learning curve and then I'll never forget engaging with this young man. His name was Stephen. He was an accountant. I pulled them towards me as we shook hands, a CEI look, I don't know, I feel like a fish out of water. If you support me, I promise I won't let you down. And he did exactly that. He really, he really was fantastic. Long and short. Long short of everything is, I again use that word, burning deside to engage with my own business and set up something that I could work with people and help people. And I set up a business in late two thousand and two, early two thousand and three called step to training, and that's t o step to training, and that was really in aging with adult learners who wanted to do a complete career change. So we worked with people coming up, they armed forces, people who were completely fed up with their careers and we were giving them the opportunity to get into the construction set to the construction industry and step to training. Was the first organization to actually facilitate residential programs for Adolf learners. So and this took off like a rocket. So there was from two thousand and three to two thousand and eight and they really took place in the West country,...

...up near Gloucestershire, Sciencester Area Wales, and we had a very successful business. Having sold that, I came back to London and this time I joined my brothers in construction and as you do, is brothers, you buy and set up a dry cleaning business. We bought and set up it an estate agency business and we did a plethora of things together. But, as a lot of people, I think, understand realize, working with family has its moments and can and the unfortunately disagreeing and boxing, and we're a very close family. So we decided to separate our differences. And I truly believe, Sabrina, in life that whatever we do in this world is preparing us with amazing things. I really am truly believe that, and there's no one in this world that's had a straight journey. We've all had cold balls thrown at us. And out of the blue, having separated from my brothers, which is a bit of a knock, and old may Tom Mind got hold me and said, Philip, what are you up to these days, and I explained to what I was doing. He should come and have a coffee with me in London and I met him for a coffee and we chatted. Me Said, I'm running a buckler school. Your restaurant pages in time was just phenomenal in Cape Town. I would love you to come and get involved somehow, come and spend some time looking and observing. So I spent about two or three weeks working for free, as in complimentary, going up and observing, and then I started to facilitate a lot of these these coaching programs and Butler courses with the view to potentially starting and etiquette school together. And Fortune that didn't take place. But my wife said to me, Philip, this is your calling, this is something you've got to do. Set something up on your own, and so the British School of the ticket was pretty much born two thousand and thirteen fourteen, and we launched the British School of e ticket then and it took off like a rocket. The first six months were unbelievable and then it just fell off the edge of a cliff. Joom boom, fell right off and it really was I felt like a rabbit in front of the headlights and to being you must also bear in mind that working on your own and your own little office can be very lonely. I was still getting dressed every day approfectly, I was arriving at my desk on time. I was really helped trying to give my mindset in tune, but the loneliness kicked in, the frustration of not achieving what I wanted to achieve, and and my wife, who's incredibly dynamic and supportive, it was kicking me up the rear and pushing me, encouraging me. So that your first year of the British who better to get the first six months that I said, it was a while and then it just dropped off the airt of the cliff and I could have easily given up. And there were a few times and I my head in my hands and tears, thinking and I really doing what I'm doing? Is it going to happen? All my friends are getting hidden life and I'm sitting around messing about with disorganization. I know it's my passion, but what am I doing? As a lot of questions. And I decided the end of that year to take on some very dynamic business coaching and also...

...get involved in some CBT, some cognis of behavior therapy. And again my wife carry supported me every step of the way and financially backed me on this because my business wasn't making money, I would add, fall off a cliff and she backed me one hundred percent. And and as just took a lot of people out there to need to understand that one thing you need to do in this is invest in yourself. Do not be afraid of investing yourself on any level. And and and I threw a serious amount of money at this coaching program it cost me a lot of money, or cost my wife a lot of money of the time. I've now paid her back, but it was a it was a big investment. It was it was into, you know, double double digits with a couple of Zeros on the end. But I tell you what's possibly one of the best things I could have ever done, because I look at this like, if you steering a ship in the ocean, you don't just turn the steering wheel and the ship that automatically swings across. It takes time to then study at my confidence again and I think putting some serious structure in place and some very serious focus in place and it started to make a massive difference. We have made a big, big difference for me. Was that my coach said to me, for if you need to hire someone, and I nearly did a double flip flag and my heart jumped into my threat and I said to I can't afford anybody right now. He said that's not the point, you need to hire someone. He asked me what am I doing in the business and I said I was wearing every hat under the sun. I was doing so many different things in the business and so therefore I wasn't able to focus on any one thing in particular. He said, hire someone to take on all the sort of transactional things and then you can start to focus on those more transcisional you can start to look at the bigger picture and and I took an end and as anyone who takes on any coaching and understands when the coach shares something with you or guides your steers you. You take on board what they saying and don't add your ten percent. You've got to literally stay focus on what they're shooting with you, because they've been there, they've done that, they've circumventing all the heartache and all the trip ups that you're going to go through if you don't listen to your coach. And again, for anybody out there who's contemplating moving ahead in life, take on someone who can guide you and steer you hundred percent. I really, one hundred percent, wholeheartedly believe that I've just engaged in some further coaching right nose you speak. I'm using this time to grow and develop. I'm using this time right now to to bring on some online courses to do we're doing a lot of zoom coaching right now, but it's just the ability to reshift, you know, take shifting the be ahead of the program right now. Anyone out there not sure what they're wanting to do. Everyone feel like then front the Rabbit in front of headlights. Do yourself a favorite. Go down the road to continued professional development. Look at things that you can do right now to better yourself so that when we do come out of this horrendous scenario that we've all been faced with globally. We're all in the same boat together. We can come out roaring like a big line. You...

...can really do that, and this is what to have started to happen. So I hired someone and boom, within the first three to four months this business side to gather traction again and more and more momentum. I was then able to go make sure that we, as a brand, as an organization, could be fully accredited by educational awarding bodies. No other other Etiquett school or organization in our industry and ever bothered to go down that road. So now we are the only credits and organization in our industry. Through island, part of city and guilds, continue professional development, provider, accent of training, excidence, as well as an investors in people. And now down the line where a sort of five six years into our business, we're a globe are brand. Now we've got a partnership in India, Pakistan, Japan, Brazil, soon to be actually USA as well. Now we've got an amazing woman in the Greater Philly area, Greater Philadelphia area with coil has just taken on the brand partnership and will be launching very soon in that neck of the woods. Yeah, so the British feel videquate. We're looking at ways that we can tke with one more people out there and I truly believe that, going down the route of being online and offering online courses that you can buy as a package. We're about to launch our first twenty minutes courses, hopefully next week. We we people can purchase them from our website or through our website. It's new for us, it's something it and it's shocked Sabrina Chaker in naturally, this is none. As I said, I don't want anyone in the you know, to think of etiquet and manners and it's all very pompous and already stayed and all very stuffy. It's got nothing to do with that. You know that. It's about being very natural. It's about connecting with people. It's giving people the tools to build their confidence. Yeah, I know, you know. I really love about you, Filip, you you're all of that. So if you're listening to this and you do need to go into very affluent scenarios, fillip also has packages for that. If you're a parent and you just want to position your child to be able to when they're encounter and engagements, they know how to diversify. And what I really loved about the transparent see of your journey, Philip, and I really thank you for being so open, is that there was a time when you felt like a duck out of water. I love that. Like as an entrepreneur, as your business goes from strength to strength, you're going to be faced with new environments, new investment opportunities. Here's the thing. How would it feel for you to have been confronted with an opportunity can take it to the next step and have that judgment of going not quite sure I want to do business with this person just because you lack things? As I remember, you given us some of your time. We met with my kids, we met one to one, and one of the questions I asked You, Philip, was I had a feeling that my children can do so much in terms of success, but I just knew that depended on how they conducting themselves, without saying that that is a word, they would be judged on the way...

...they enter a room, the way they navigate, the way they might be dining. So this at the school of Etiquette has something for someone somewhere, no matter where you are, and what I really love is that Philip has an amazing way of actually connecting with you where you are and then taking you to the next level. But my primary essence as a parent. So a lot of the listeners are entrepreneurs and parents and successful entrepreneurs who desired to create influence of children. And one thing that I really feel, especially in this current climate, is that there's so much emphasis on academics. Nat Look at what's happened now. Scores of shutdown. They've given kids expected AIDS. Some will have good grade, some will have awful grades. Now that is going to depict the child's life going forward, if that's what you think it is. But here's the thing. Research shows, and you can go ahead and do your own research, only ten percent right academics is only ten percent to really guarantee success for your child's future. So why are we putting so much emphasis only on academics? Now, I'm not saying that academics is not important, okay, but what I am saying academics alone is only ten percent to guarantee success. They then say that twenty percent is socialization, but a wop In seventy percent to guarantee your child success is entrepreneurship, experiential learning, and this is exactly what Philip brings to the table, and I really cannot emphasize enough this is a product service a gentleman who I endorse myself and my family. You know, there are some amazing conversation that we're going to go ahead and have and we've had to actually bring some things to the table. But, listeners, I want you to really grasp what's on off of for you. It's not dining skills only. It's not just how do I talk and communicate and stand? This is about your emotional intelligence. So if you don't know how to deal with your own emotions and that of others, you know, I that the unforeseen will happen. But once you do have those tools in your talk it, the rest is history and the possibility has become endless. And Philip, I wonder if you could interject them. I look like you've said. That's so brilliantly, Sabrina. You know, this is literally what this is about. This is giving people the tools to understand the empower and importance of engaging with other people, everyone out there right now who is sort of looking at ways to grow and develop. One of the best ways one can grown a bit is by our bettering our emotional intelligence, and for me this is very much the foundation of life. If you have good, strongly M E Q emotional intelligence, you can be the brightest person in the world, but if you don't have good Eq, you will fall down along the way. You really in tribute will and I love what you said. You've really some that. I've been brilliant. I can't. I can even better what I'm what you just shared. You know, screener, you a mum who were very talented kids and, as you said, I've worked with...

...them and met them and had the privilege of spending some more really good quality time together. You've done a remarkable job. They're rounded, they're engaging, they listen when people open their mouths, and I think this is one of the most wonderful skill sets that we can teach not just children but ourselves, is learning to listen properly, actually engaging in hearing what the other person saying, taking on board what they saying, digesting it and then interacting with those people. That is wondrous. I love what you're saying because when it comes to our life skills, there's not in off conversation around that. When it comes to entrepreneurs, business owners, see, I, I'm sure you know, I can raise my hand and say I've had some pretty interesting in interactions with business owners and it's an essence of this is my label and because of who I am, that's enough. It's not. It really isn't. People gravitate where they feel that they listen to, like Philip correctly said, you know, attention to detail. I love the essence that if you notice that one of your diners are left handed, next time that the the cutlery will be set such a way. That's what keeps people coming, for that's what keeps people feeling they want to build yourpport and continue building a pole with you. And I've always said this to my children, to the clients that I work with, everybody I meet, is that people will connect with you depending on the way you connect with them. If it's a mini Mei scenario, you really are becoming your worst problem. You get in the way of where you can actually go in your life, with your business and your personal life. So what I would say to the listeners is definitely read out to Philip and his amazing team. Philip, I wonder if you can let people know where they can find you, because this is going to be audio and video, so those of that can't see the banner, if you could just let them know how they can get in touch place. And if I may see Don know times ahead in I just wanted to I want to share with with you as well. We are very fortunate in you know, one thing that I know you're amazing at is helping other people, and I'm a true believer in collaboration and I think this is how we, as human beings, can really, really make a huge impact in our lives by collaborating with other people. And and on that note, I just sent something to Sabrina. We are collaborating with an unbelievable woman who is based in the US, as she's a TEDEX speaker. She is she's you know, she's a multi, multi award winning coach and we are, along with a gentleman by the name of Ryan Suave and, as a mention, this woman by name of Jennifer Grace, we're running a podcast or a live women are this Thursday. It'll be here eight PM GMT plus one, so in other words UK time, UK summertime. So wherever your listeners are in the world they can dial in and...

...a pull obviously be rescheduled. But Jennifer and Ryan are going to be taking people on the most incredible journey, because it's ready that the whole process is how we empower our kids by alleviating anxiety, in cultivating consciousness and communication during especially this time right now. Quart team, and we are not only along with Jennifer grace and Ryan Swab, we've actually partnered with an incredible organization in Australia called beautiful minds, who was founded. A beautiful minds founded about ten for a few years ago finding again a wonderful, dynamic woman, and she's now in nine hundred schools to Australia working with youngsters and teenagers on helping them with their skill set, with their mindset, with how to grow as a human being rather than just be this academic focused in individuals. So it's about again stepping out of our comfort zones. It's about connecting with like minded organizations and everyone taking a piece of the action, because this is not about Menn the more people that we can influence on this world. Boom, you're going to create an unbelievable the no effect. They are, and I truly believe in the one of the most beautiful expressions. If we all do a random act of kindness on a daily basis, we may just set the world in the right direction. So I'm going to ask you to bring a piece to share this free live online training set up with with your readers and audience and if anyone wants to engage with us here at the British School of Etiquette, it literally is belong big mouthful of www dot British school of etiquettecom. I'm I love receiving emails. Personally, I'm not one of these organizations we are sit at the top and don't interact. For me it's about interacting. So my name is Philip with one Ol, and then that's Philip at the British School of etiquetcom. Please feel free to reach out to us. We've got a youtube channel from our website. You can go into twitter, Youtube, instagram, we've got a facebook. We've but all these social media platforms and we will offer you as much values we can. Plastic. I'm so glad that you did actually share that Golden Nugget. Thank you so much. I'll definitely be attaching that link. I'll put on the podcast and the video, so it will be going everywhere. So listeners and viewers, you can actually just click in the description to actually get hold of the information that Philip is kindly shared. Philip, I cannot thank you enough for being a part of our life, for the work that you're doing and the transparency you see. At this time we are all rendered to go back to what does it mean to be a human being, and I cannot agree with you more that one act of kindness a day can transform any situation, and I think that that we're all in the same seat right now gives us an opportunity to reset, reconnect and go out and shift the world. Entrepreneurs are used to be dynamic, they used to coming up with solutions to problems. So, listeners, that includes you. You know, no matter where you are right now, there's some value that you can add to your family and your community. So...

...why not get in touch with myself and that will Philip, and see what we can do together, because together, when we unite, wonderous things start to take place. One of my favorite. Well, one of our family favorite quotes is it takes a village. You can go fast a loan, but you can go further together. So what if we can utilize this time to just internect like individual jigsaw pieces to a big puzzle with our own skill sets? There's no one that's got a skill that's not valid and no one knows too much not to teach someone else. So we all have something that we desire to teach and something we desired to love learn, because the true essence of humans is connection. So let's not lose that essence of who we are. Okay, takes good therapist my stuff to be again thanks to the opportunity. It's such a joint pleasure. And your face, you're smile just that's up the world. So excited. Keep keep doing what you're doing and I know the munt of influence and how you help the people is changing lads all around the world. So we're on the same path, we're on the same road to get it, we're pulling in the same barriagtion and I just thank you for this amazing opportunity and thank you for you you're welcome, Philip. Thank you so much for joining US listeners. I really hope that you take away some golden nuggets. Rewind it, listen to it again and pick up the bits that you've missed and get in touch you. See, there's one thing people tend to say is like knowledge knowledge, knowledge is power and, though I really begin that, believe that is a flawed premise. It's like having vitamin C without having vitamin D. There's no absorption. So this will only work when you actually take action. Get in touch with Philip and take action. Make the knowledge appliable, utilize it. Has Some experiential learnings. You can start moving forward. Take Good Care of Yourself, Phillip, and you're family and I look forward to seeing you again soon and we'll take it from there. Thank you, less you. Thank you, Baba. Why.

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