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Episode 40 · 2 years ago

Episode #40: Interview: Arianna Scott

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Hide in. My name is Sabrina, been summy, and you'll hit on discussions of exploration with your host, Sabreme when Sammy, as I said. But today I'm joined by a special guest called Ariana Scott, and she is going to be discussing the essence of how to maintain an attitude of gratitude during this challenging times. They have a tongue too. Stuff for me here and Arianna, thank you for joining us on this platform. I wonder if you can introduce yourself to the audience, the listeners, please? Yes, of course. First of all, I'm super excited that I get to share the your platform with you. I have watched you, for you and your family, for so many years. You've inspired so much of what we do in our home and it's just like a dream come true for me to be able to actually share this this time with you. But my name is Ariana, as you mentioned, and I'm not really big on introductions. I like to be me, but I'm a mom, I'm a wife, I'm a I don't know, I'm just the average girl, average woman, and we share so much in common. I'm passionate about people succeeding in whatever they do, especially when they have the right mindset. So you'll find me a lot encouraging people just to be the best that they can be, because I personally have gone through challenges and so I'm not one to it back and just watch people fall, just watch people try to find their way blindly through an area in life. You'll find me as the biggest cheerleader you know a person can have, and that's what I love to do, and so, in introduction, that's who I am. You know, I am an encourager. I like to be light in dark areas and I like to be joy, you know, for anybody and any in any area. You Know Me and you've been following me. That is what I love to do and so I don't make a big introduction. I'm a mom or wife, a sister, whatever it is that you need, I try to be that person, and so thank you for having me, thank you for being here. Beana, to be honest and very touching. You know, I really ach what you said because I've been following you for years and I can definitely agree with you that you are the support. You really are. You lift up people. So thank you for being there, being present. I want for the purpose of the listeners was, like, you know, the during the current state, what's going on. I wonder if you can share an aspect of your story from a premise of just encouraging people. Sometimes I find that people come to me and they say, well, it's easy for you because you've got this or is easy because because of that. Well, actually, we all have a beginning. Yeah, yeah, so for me I experienced some some very challenging, hard, rough patches, you know, in my life early on. Some of those patches were abuse, neglect, just as a child, and so I had to learn how to navigate, you know, through life very young, at a very young age, I was put into adult situations and and so my mind is a little bit different than the average mind, just because I've had lots of practice. And so even, like you mentioned, during these times. I say practice because all of those years, things that I've gone through, the things that I've experienced, both good and bad, have shaped me and put me for this position, you know, for such a time as this. And so all of the years of practice and my story, for lack of better words, and and and will. I know we're going to get into the topic, but my mindset has been shaped and formed for such a time as this, you know, such as this challenging time, and so I've overcome previous challenges and I'm going to overcome this one as well. Oh yes, indeed, I love that. I really love that Cuz it really rings true for us as a family. To it is that the storm doesn't lost the ways, it shall come to me, and I love that and it's absolutely beautiful. And, like you said, we're going to get into the topic subject. But why did you choose it? So ariona actually chose this topic her self, and why? Why was that on the forefront of your mind? So actually share with all thissess having an attitude of gratitude. Dude, what is the topic that I chose? And I think that it's so easy to focus on the negative. For example, I don't know if you guys have her because I know we're kind of distance apart, but one of the things we say here in the United States is you can't see the tree for the forest. In other words, you're so busy looking at or you're so or you can't see. I said it back wards. You can't see the forest for the tree. So you're so busy looking at a tree, that you don't see the bigger picture, and so...

I think what we've been conditioned to do, especially with media, with social media, with the news and things that we see on TV, things that we hear on the radio, things that we just talked about amongst ourselves, we tend to be more negative, we tend to focus on the primary problem instead of seeing an understanding the bigger picture, and so that's why I chose this topic, because that's something that I'm very passionate about. You know, all things work together, right, all things, both good and bad, work together so that in the end the bigger picture is going to be positive, especially if you make it positive. Like we can make anything negative, but you can also make anything positive. And so I tend, and I choose, because it is a choice, I choose, to lean more on making things positive period. Yes, that is beautiful and I think that really homes into the essence that the choice is really yours. You know, you can make of this situation anything you want, and some people will be going through adverse situations, but still it's for us to claim that. How can I see this as an opportunity for me to birth out of this? What the next step is for me, because we can sit at home and watch TV and go, well, look, this is all happening to us right go. Actually, maybe this is an opportunity for us to start sharing, caring, into connecting, activating. So it really is. It's actually what Ariana saying. It's an opportunity for you right now to home in and choose what is this going to mean to you, to you as a family? But only you can make that choice. I really love that, Arianna. Thank you so much. And the other aspect I was going to ask is that how do you kind of into interconnect on a daily basis, this mindset of I guess you know, if your face of a situation, a challenge or some contrast, how does your mindset help you to repattern or shift your perspective, so to speak? I love this. I love this because and I'm really need and only because I you know my children, my family, they know that I will pull out, you know, a saying or a phrase in order to make it applicable to the situation. And so, like I was just telling my youngest son the other day. I said, you know, because he was having a challenge and he hadn't prepared for of this. I say, son, if you stay prepared, if you stay ready, you don't have to get ready. And so I love it when you talk about mindset, because when you come upon a problem, where you come up on a challenge, at that moment is not the time for you to try to scurry and get ready for it. Had you had been prepared for it, preparing even when you weren't having adversity, even when you weren't having a challenge, when you did come up against the challenge, you have greater you have a greater chance of succeeding in it, not that you can't succeed, but having that that mindset of success, if that makes sense. So for me, I am really big on daily building your mindset in a positive way. So, personally, I'm because I am a Christian. I the first thing I do every day is I give thanks and attitude of gratitude. So the first words, because for me, and we're going to get hopefully not too deep, but for me, words are power. So whatever you give your words to, if you imagine, I always use this illustration, imagine words everywhere that you speak, as little people running out of your mouth. Right and depending on because you're the boss. So you are the boss, so you are employing your words. And so, because I'm really big on having an attitude of gratitude, the first people, the first employees that I say and out of my mouth from when I open my eyes are gratitude. So when I open my eyes, and I'm talking before our breash, my teeth, before I mean when I open my eyes, the first words that I am saying are thank you, and then from there I am still adding, I'm pouring into myself positivity, things that are going to build me up. I'm not turning on Theo but the TV and watching the news. I'm not checking my email, I'm not checking my social media timeline, and it's really hard, you know, with our smartphones. They have those notifications lined up and ready for you. No, I swipe up, get him off on my screen and I am pouring into myself, whether it's me listening to some positive music or reading something positive, those are the first things that I do. Why? Because I may not be in a challenging moment at this time, I may not be an adversity at this time, but adversity...

...will come. Every season comes. Rain always comes right and so for me. You know, I could, I could go on and on and on, but I'm prepared so that when adversity does come, it's not as I'm not. I'm not running around worried, you know, like everyone else is doing. And I don't say that in a prideful way. I just say these are practices, these are things that I have put into practice long before covid nineteen wow, long before. I Love, Love, love that. I love that it connects to the fact of what you said to your son. You stay ready. It's not getting ready when it happens, is staying ready. And and listen, I really really want you to reach inside of yourself and utilize that. What Ariana sharing like. Is this an opportunity for you to reflect on the life that you're living? Has it been a shock to you or are you just living life as you was living before it happened? Because the truth is, if you would do what Ariana saying is that. I loved when you said you actually swipe up. I love that because it's like, are you letting the day run you or are you running the day? It's right. And I always say that these are for iphone users, people like I just Oh, yeah, it's different world. I love that because you said that like before you opened your eyes there was an agenda and like, like what's happening for us? It's like in the world there's an agenda, but are you gonna reconnect with that agenda every time you wake up, or are you going to get up for the Andrew, I know for the Android is different, but we have iphones. So are you going to wake up and Swipe it away and do what you've put in place? Yeah, first starting with the thank you. I absolutely love that. That is beautiful, really it is. It is intentional. It took me a little while. I'm not going to say that. You know. I woke up and I made this decision and you know it just happened. But I think that when you are determined, right, when you are determined to make a change, you know, and I always say, people do what they want to do. People buy into what they want to buy into. People will tell you when they don't want to buy into it, oh I don't have the money, but the same person, and that's setting that same next moment, that didn't have money, will buy into will literally go into debt. Okay, because they want it to buy. They want it this, and so you have to want it bad enough and you have to put into your mind determination. Like, you know what I don't want. You know, I'm tired of getting the same results because I'm doing the same thing. So I've got to I've got to do something different. And we hear about the time, but yeah, I got to do something different, you know. And so for me this practice, it's taken, you know, years, I will say it's taken years, you know, now to the point where it's so wrote or it's such a sometimes I just do it and I don't even think about I don't even realize that like that, I've done it. You know, I love, Love, love. The example that you've given is that when someone's interested and committed, that two different things, because one would go yeah, and I can't kind of do it, and like you saying, the other one, we'll go when I'm going to go into debt for this, because when you're when you want something like as much as you want to do and breathe oxygen, you may have happened. When it becomes that that the primary essence of your pure existence, you will make it happen. So now we're we're talking about Grat you having that attuld have brought you to preserve you and your family going forward. If you understand the value in it, you will make it happen. You will plant the seed because, like Arian and saying the same as me, it never happened overnight. That the truth is, if you don't plant the seed now, listener, how's it going to start to grow? It really is about just planting that and allowing the ripple effects to come from that initial seeding. And what I really love about what you said as well is that we have a choice. I think sometimes, as human beings, we put out this verbalization of where so hopeless or we can't do these things. Will actually take a good look at your life? The truth is all of the results you're getting is as a result of exactly what you said. Is that the habitual action? What have you been planning and practicing every single day to get it? Because nothing just shows up, you know right, doing something, saying something, being somewhere, connecting with a certain crowd of people to be creating all these things are going on in your life. Would you like to expand on what your view point is around that? Yeah, so my view point is, and it was, and this actolutely is the is the point. It was the tipping point for me because I had to come to the realization that, regardless of what I do, I'm still going to get twenty four hours in the day. Nothing is going to change that. So even if I started to do this and I failed at it, okay, that's fine. I'm still...

...going to get another day, I'm still going to get another twenty four hours, so I can tweak it or not. And I think it just me spending and going through a whole day literally, like on social media, just doing nothing, just unproductive work, nothing that was going to stick with me, and then realizing that I'm still going to get that same amount of time, I'm still going to get to it's still going to be Monday, it's going to be Tuesday, tomorrow and Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, so forth and so on. I can either spend that time trying to do something productive and positive and something that's going to to last in a more positive way, because their negative things can last too. You know, I just had to make that decision and I think that part of the fact that I still get the same day, I still get the same amount of time in the day, but it's up to me what I choose to do with it. That was a catalyst that that that my mindset completely changed and I decided to take on this attitude of gratitude or take on the the role of being productive as opposed to not doing anything. I absolutely love that. It's so it's so beautiful listening to you, because I know that we've been following each other. Actually listening to you, I take it. Articulate yourself. It's hard because I'm trying not to laugh because we are so similar. Like I'm in to my kids, like are you going to just sit there and then today go? Because today's a gift? We don't know tomorrow's come in, okay, and right all we have. So I'm very much in that mindset, exactly what you said. Just do one thing, if you achieve one thing today, learn one thing today, I just feel like it's not wasted. Don't get me wrong, I'm not work a Hoholic. I don't think you to do things all day long, but my point is is that life is so precious. Why do we tend to why do some people waste it aimlessly? Like for me, I'm just like I appreciate every aspect of life. If we look out of the window, we can see the saturation of beauty and power. Yeah, and for me it's like it's so wasteful to go, Oh hey, okay, I'm just going to sit here today and do nothing. And there's nothing wrong with being present. Don't get me wrong, I love to be very mindful connective. I do earthing, I journal, so there's not it's not I have a fear of being quiet. My essence is that if you gave me a gift and all I do is look at it and just put it down, I feel that there's an essence of disrespect. We've been yes entire life. Why would we take it for granted? That is funny that you say that, because over the course of the at least the last six months so even more so, has my mindset changed in appreciation for a purpose. Everything or superpose. Everything has a place, and I think one of the the turning points even in that for me was in January when Kobe Bryant and his daughter passed away. That for me, there was the thought that came in my mind. What and and I had sent this message out to several people and the question was, if you what would your last twenty what would your last night be like? Not even twenty four hours. What would your last night be like? Because I'm not a work a hollic either, but I'm going to tie y'all, you know, together. What would your last night be like, you know, with your family? If you knew, and you were the only person who, who was privy to this information, if you knew that the next day, at dred and forty set or a forty seven am, that you were going to perish in a helicopter crash, and you were the only person privy to that information, how would you spend your last evening with your family? How would you spend that how would you see things differently? How would you see the the the glass of water differently? How would you see your last meal? Would you, you know, would you spend that time having movie night, you know, with your family, just cuddled up, those moments that we just let go, that we just don't even think about, you know, with our family, you and I, having these conversations, wouldn't have just been a text message, you know what I mean, like or would we be facetoface speaking? What I'd be more grateful for the person who cut me off, you know, at the at the at the market, at the grocery store? Would I be more grateful for that person that accidentally stepped on my foot in a rush and a hurry, because we get so busy in life? And so for me, purpose of everything, purpose of every single thing, like you said, whether it's the pin, whether it's the paper that I'm writing on, whether it's the ground, you know, that I'm walking on. Like you said, if we misuse or abuse every aspect that is that...

...that got awards us or affords us every day, we have completely missed the mark, completely missed the mark. You know, all of your woods and literally saturate in my being, because this is something that I've echoed to people for many, many years, and what I found is that the response I used to get, you know, things a bit different because I I guess, I little. I become an embodiment of who I am. The people around me of shifted, but the people here around, what I noticed is that they would say that's too much of a morbid question. So when you can't live with the essence of you might die. But I said, I said the one of the biggest things I believe. You know, I'm you know, it's just my own belief. It doesn't mean it's true, but one of my belief systems that I have is that we tend to live like there is no end, and I think that is the very premise why we take so much for granted. That is not one to exercise until we feel sick. We tend to not want to eat healthy until things go bad. We tend to not remember that there's death until we lose a loved one. And I think it's in that that Veale of living in an illusion that that's all great as pain, because, like, look at now, everyone's run home and you know everyone's going to die, and I'm going, well, actually, only God knows the time where you're going to die anyway. And the truth was, before all this happened, who said that you were lasting until Wednesday anyway? Right? Who? WHO said that? Yes, I don't. I don't think your viewpoint is morbid at all. In fact, if it is morbid, we should all be living that way, because we are living to die. You know, you live, you, you, you, you live to die. That is the cycle of life. That's desolutely life. Exactly correct. The one guarantee of life is that you will die, and so we all should. If it's a morbid thought, we all should have that thought and the thought should be then, if I am living to die, then how well have I lived? How well have I lived? It's not enough to say. Even even now, I was talking to someone and and because I'm really big on, you know, just really taking care of my temple, which is why I reach out to you as I hey, I I have my can I wear my workout clothes, you know, like can i? I just don't really want to have to wear too out, you know, just it is fine. And so, but I was doing this. I have the realization that I am living to die, but I want to live a life well lived, like I want to live in a way that I can see my grandchildren, my great grandchildren, their children and and I don't want to be that one that decrepit and sickly, you know, I don't want to be that person. I want to I want to live life, you know, I don't want to live death. And it's a lot of people that are living death. Yeah, they're literally like walking caskets because they have, like you said, taking life for granted. And so even now, like I tell people, well, it's not enough for you to run out and get right in and see. Now, you know, it takes at least six months to a year for your body to even receive it. Yes, so again back to that being prepared, staying ready, you know. So it's a touchy subject and I can see the viewpoint of others, because nobody really wants to talk about death, but then also nobody really wants to talk about life. At what point are we going to have this conversation? I love that I read, and I think you know, the fact that you've chosen this topic. It really does come from a premise of gratitude. So we're not saying to live in feed you know, I love that. You're saying, you know, live each day like as if it was your loss. Why? Because you're going to love a little more, you're going to be a little bit more, you're going to prevent yourself from doing this and like, yeah, how's it going? It's going to be like, I want to see you because, guess what, I want to cherish this fully. Yeah, there'sn't a fully immersive so we're not saying it to you to take away from we're saying it to you, to add to so that you can fully connect so when that day does come, you felt like you've got to know that spouse, that child and soone and so forth. Like I'm a coach, and I mean a lot of clients, and some of the painful things I get to hear. There's so many, but one of the things that stands out is that I lived in the same house as my siblings or a partner or a parent and I didn't know them. Yeah, pouring out. I think that God gives each of us a measure of something, whether it's a measure of grace, a measure of life. When I say measure, it's just simply a time frame or an amount of something, and I like to use the analogy because I'm a visual person, so you'll hear me see me use a lot of visual examples. But when you have a measuring cup, when we measure something in it, do we measure it in there just we can stay? We're...

...usually measuring it in there so that we can pour it out into something. And so I think that our lives are a measure of whatever it is that we you know, we have to offer and good things. You know, I know that they're are some people out there, and I don't know who needs to hear this or know this, but for so long you may have thought that you were negative, that there was nothing good about you. But in baking a cake, when you're looking through that recipe, there's a measure of everything that by itself is no purpose. Ser like I can't see myself just eating a cupful of flower just by or, you know, the raw egg, you know, or the Pinch of salt, or even baking soda like this, discussing, you know, by itself. But we do have a measure of it. And when we pour all of that out that we've been given, will we pour all of that out and is all mixed together, you'll find the the most amazing thing comes out of it. And so I think that that's what we have to take into account. We have a measure of whatever it is that God is given you, good and bad, and you make it gets bad, but he saw that it was good. And so yeah, it's when we pour that out, we don't just keep it to ourselves, when we aren't just misers and stingy, but what we have allowing people to know us, allowing people to see us in vulnerable states. I think it's so funny because this time that we're going through this challenge, we are be being forced to be vulnerable, we are being forced to find creative ways, even though we may not even realize it's a poor ourselves, to pour out into others things that we didn't even know that we could do, we didn't even know was in us. It's coming out as being squeezed out of us. And so, you know, I don't want to have that story. I don't want to have the story that I lived in the home with siblings or live with my spout, my husband, and he not know me. You know, like you know, you find out a lot about a person. You know when they're when they passed on, and I just I just believe that we don't have to have that narrative, that we don't have to have the narrative of you knowing and learning me when you're when my obituary is being read, when you're reading my obituary. You know, I want to be if that's the case, I want to be a living obituary. I want you to love it, know me right now while I'm alive, so that when the obituary comes, maybe it for my obituary, maybe you already know her and that's it closed. But I love that. I Love, Love, Love Loh my God, you just pulled out. Listen, I really hope you're taking heed of this and stop it, pulls it, rewind, take nuts, really listened and embodiate for you yourself and take from it what you need, because I wholeheartedly side before you'll say and see often, because we know what's your legacy going to be, what you going to leave behind, we're going to leave behind and to kind of connect to what you just said, why don't we learn to live the legacy and leave the legacy? Why we not being a living, breathing embodiment of who we are? And I love that, as simply as you put it, I know as you know her, because it shouldn't be any different thereafter. It's what you see. Okay, yeah, no, you don't. You know me already, like you know everything about me, like already, even with my children, like I don't want to pass something down. Mean I want to pass it down in the sense of legacy, yes, but we should already be doing it while I'm alive, like it shouldn't be. Okay, no, it's ours together and it's passed down because it is ours together, and now because I passed on and left it to you, and now you got to try to figure it out. No, you're going to already know. Okay, this is what my mom want or this is what we do. This is so that it's already a process in place. You're already moving along. There's no stop in the process, if that makes sense. Beautiful and I love what you shared with regards to the recipe. I love that you when you said, like who would eat flower? Who would eat the raw egg? Yeah, I get if you're on special diets, but what I mean is that, from the premise of what Ariana shared, is that that's not what you would do. But when they come together it's a beautiful mix. And I love what you said about the so called bad parts, because we are encompass of the good and bad, the Yin and Yang, and all sides of those make us. Yes, and I really want the listeners to really home in that this topic is really an opportunity for you to up, you know, looking in the mirror, start looking at what are the blind spots that you've not seen that you can utilize this time that we're all going to remember for our time, and that what is it going to mean to you? You know, fast forward six months from now, a year from now, what do you want to actually look back and...

...think? Okay, what am I going to choose to remember? This point in time adds because if you come from the premise of what Arianna share with you, with the gratitude, with me living each day like it's a gift, it me living each day with the essence of appreciation and gratitude. Just imagine how you're going to look back on this time and those two perspective can be the difference. That makes a world of a difference to you and your family. Yes, yes, I really want to point out one thing to that gratitude is a two way street. M It's a two way street. And so, like you've mentioned, the gift is being given to us. Every day. A gift is being given, but the gratitude is giving back that gift. So it's a two way street, that good two way street. It is a cycle. It's it's an ongoing cycle give gifts. That's what gratitude is, is giving. Well, it's not given. Take right it's literally giving, giving, and so that's how come gratitude. So gratitude and thankfulness. Actually people don't understand that those actually two different things. You can be thankful for something and it's you gave me this, thank you, but gratitude is the fact that you gave me something, now I'm giving it back, whether it's back to you or to someone else. Gratitude is literally like a circle, as a cycle, and it's it doesn't stop, and so if it ever stops, you've got to find where that black is just coming from. Either you have not had the capacity to receive it, which means the reason why you don't have the capacity to receive it is because you're too full. You hadn't give it. So just always want to clarify that. You know, having an attitude of gratitude means that you can't be selfish. No, it's not just take, take, take, every time you take, you have to give something. I love that. I love that and I think that the way God created the world, nature is a perfect example for that. The tree doesn't say you've taken an apple yesterday, you need to get it back. But in our lives, and you know that that fat apple bears seeds and, as you yeah, those of that. Yeah, and I love that because it's the essence of paying it forward. And would you agree that if we did one single act of kindness a day, the world be a better place? Were just paying it forward with not okay, I did this for you, so you have to get back to me. But what if you just pay it forward? What if you just shift your demeanor ever so as much and go, okay, let me look in the Mirror, let me just fix up those wounds so I don't have all that resentment, the anger, that can allow me to give a as one of over, I love you. I love how you just said about that, the inner our wombs, because I'm also big on inter healing, because because you you attract, we attract things and so we don't heal those wounds. Imagine, I don't know a thing of honey. You know a jar of honey and the honey is going to attract flies, is going to attract these, it's going to attract bugs, and so your wounds are like the honey that attract the negativity. So when you have things happening in your life, life is reciprocal, whether it's negative or positive. It's reciprocal, and so I'm not saying don't hear what I'm not saying, because your wounded like you just going to have bad things happen to you. But if you see these cycles happening in your life, if you start to see this as just you know, you know what, I'm always attracting negative people, I'm always attracting negative things. Are always happening to me. It's time, like you said, to take a look in the mirror and just kind of do a self check, or heart check. I like to say, instead of hardship, a heartship. Do do a heart check, because it could be that you just haven't healed and and so you even need to give those wounds right. Give those wounds. You're full of wounds. You got to reciprocate, you've got to give it away, and then just remember that, like you were saying about seeds, just remember that the that rain only bothers the person who hasn't sown seed. So if you've sown seed, if you planted some plan sense, you actually want the rain, you actually need the rain. And so for that person that feels like you know what I'm giving, I'm getting, I'm giving and then you don't want to go through any hardships or hardships. You don't want to go through anything, then don't. I'm just going to put this out there. Then maybe don't expect the harvest. Maybe don't. You know, if you don't want the rain, if you don't want to go through hard times, if you don't want to toil with what you've planted, if you don't want to go out there and you just want to just throw the seed out there, you know, that's fine, but you know, don't. If you don't want to do that, then don't be upset when it's harvest time and you haven't reaped a harvest. So that's that's also just. It's so much that I can just say and just...

...pour out on that. But I will say this. Every morning my prayer is not for God to give me, give me, give me, but my prayer is God, who can I serve today? Got Give me at least one person that I can serve today, whether it is having conversation, whether it is sending a text message, whether it is posting, you know, something positive on social media, whether it is just hugging my own child. You know, just they look at me like, okay, what is it? I'm whether it's making my husband's, you know, favorite dinner or something that I haven't made in a while and maybe he mentioned it. Maybe it's smiling at your neighbor across the street. I know we're practicing social distancing, so maybe it's now me actually waving. You know what I have. It's way said anything to this particular neighbor. Maybe it's leaving something on their doorstep. Whatever it is, who how can I serve you today? I love that. I love that, I really love that. And you know what I love about this? I'm so glad that you mentioned this because for the listeners, I think it's so important, especially in the current climate. And See, here's the thing you mentioned about social distance. In now, when my daughter, my daughter Lasman's written a book bill called the Choices Yours, and when she did research, she learned that without physical contact, without connection, without human beings about US loving something or receiving love from something, we start to die. So I can agree more with what you just said, is that, although we can't physically come into contact with each other right now, but now more than any other time, we need to stay connected, and I love that you know the neighbor that you don't usually say hi to say hi way that, then let it go, because there's weird being taught different lessons, because when we've all got different journeys in this life, but if you're able to be a way open to it, open to receiving the lessons that are going to be taught to you during this very period, it might just be a blessing in disguise. It may come out to be your silver line around that great cloud, because I love the fact that if we stop doing the one thing that makes us human, that's the time when it's really over. Because when, yeah, let me, we stopped loving, stop caring, stop being of service to each other, that's the moment we need. Need to be worried about what's going on. As for anything else, anyone says that's not an issue, but the moment we thought to disconnect a human being, we have no choice. Yes, you're right. In these times we are literally fighting to live, not just fighting against the virus but, like you said, fighting to thrive, fighting to live. I worked in a hospital for years and one of the things that, even with the babies, when babies are born, started to do what's caused skin to skin and that's because, especially those the sickly babies who are in Nick you and they actually have people when the parents can't be there. They have people that actually volunteer and go around and they actually do the skin to skin contact, whether it's them put their hand a little incubator and just kind of rubbing the baby, because studies have shown that babies thrive and it's because of how their brains are set up. So God, you're right. He's created us for connection, which is why, when he saw Adam was alone, he said it's not good for him to be alone, and so therefore he created eve. And so I just find it amazing how you pointed that out. You know how your your daughters. That's but just how even children like we need each other and if we cannot have that, that physical touch, contact or whatever it is, then we have to find creative ways and we have to be determined to make that happen, because it does make a difference. It makes a different. We are fighting to live exactly and I love that because I think like for me, like I said, there's eight of us at home. MOMS come to join us, but you and I we've got our family. What about people that are alone? I know there's a lot of emphasis around the elderly and we are aware of that, but I find that not a lot of people been focusing on that. There are a lot of single people in this world and loneliness is the biggest pandemic for way too long. You know, we live in these communities but we sort of live in individual boxes and we're not into connecting. So you know, they stay talk about depression being on the rise, anxieties, and most of that is because we're forgetting the most human essence part of us is that connection. Saying high a smile. For us it might be something small and we've got our family, but to someone that lives on their own and doesn't see anyone,...

...simple hello, leaving some of the adult step. I love what you said. I really really thank you for joining me in this space because you've inspired to are so much to me, and you actually have no idea, because you were talking about nature and how we it's a cycle and I love that because what you don't know is that I'm writ in two books at the moment, but there's another book that I've started to write and it kind of stopped and start because I was busy, but now I'm home I'm going to do it. But you, without knowing, have encouraged me to write it because it's called the farm in effect, so one of the stages when we're going through pain. It's so painful. But I use it. I'm like you, I'm a visual person, so I use it to demonstrate the aspect that in life, when the soil's being turned, is that uncomfortable side. But would you agree that in the farming stages, is that if you don't turn the soil it can't be prepared for the replanting. So it absolutely came out makes sense. So I'm going to be discussing that in the book. And then when the seeding stage takes place, so you put it down, you pack the soil over and everyone goes, Oh, you know, and nothing's happening. You know, yeah, that it was going to grow. Yeah, another idea. What thing's happening? But people don't realize that beneath the surface you're in the dark and everyone's doubting around you and you're still in the dark. But you've got to go through such a monumental shift and eruption beneath the soil, and that's what everyone is talking about. is inside of us, US making the choices, and I believe that it's with that great monumental shift beneath the soil, in the darkness, during our most painful moments, after going through the turn in the eruption takes when we just start to penetrate. But at that time we're not as strong as the oak tree that's been there for a hundred years. But there's a process. This is so this is why I love the title of the company you've chosen, because I feel that you, as a listener, can get so much from it and it could be so adaptable, no matter what walk of life he come from and how old you are, how young you are, or how much you deem to be. I'm not sure if it's going to work for me even really listen to the message that a Bana so gracefully put out there. For you, please, I you know. Do you want to share something? It seems like you got some and didn't. Well, could do. Got My mind going because I, you know, for there was a season where I was, I was going, where I was studying, you know, farming, you know, and reading and sewing, because it is so huge in our life and I keep wanting to reiterate how thankfulness is to a like you give it. It's give and take, like you gave me something. Thank you. But gratitude expands. And so when you are grateful, when you're living a life of gratitude, when you're living a life of gratitude, you have to you'll begin to see things differently. So things that you weren't even concerned with you start to, you know, because it's not, oh, it's not a two ways three gratitude as a disciple. And so you were making me think about it, because even in farming, you know, there's a scripture that says that those who toil and who so seed and tears will reap a harvest and due season, because that plowing and that toiling of the and turning of the the the dirt it, you know, the dirt. It doesn't come prepare contrary to popular belief, even the dirt that you pick up at the gardening stores, they've already pre done that for you. So it doesn't just come that way where I can just go throw the dirt out there and I can go plant some speed and they'll grow. The only reason those feed are growing in that soil is because it was toiled, because it was prepared, and so I could go on and on, but that's what, as you were talking about, in my mind, you know, my mind was just going because even in that you know your harvests can change. You know, there's farmers that actually they depending on the season. But this is because they know the rhythm and the the the seasons. They know the the youth that the universe. They know the seasons. They know that in the same field in the fall, or in the spring rather, they can plant corn and so on. The fall the corn will grow, but in the winter, after they've gotten that corn harvest, because when you know, I don't know like what plants grow best in in Sass, but you'll see that that same field, they have to actually turn over that field. So they've got to get all of them, the corn root stock roots out and then they may plant, I'm no cabbage or something, you know, for the upcoming seasons. And so I think we get caught up in that. We're expecting the same hardest, you know, from before, when it's time for us to now plant something else and toil over something else, and it'll be a cycle that will find. But as you were talking, because I love the topic of sewing and reaping, because that is literally what gratitude is. It's sewing, it's reaping, it's sewing, it's reeping and it's constantly. So sometimes we can't always expect to get that same harvest back.

So I gave you five dollars, so I expect twenty dollars from somewhere. Maybe it maybe a twenty dollar check will come in the mail or something, and then I get something else and I've completely discarded this harvest because I was expecting this particular thing, or you know what I mean, like we were expecting one thing and then it comes in another form, so we completely brush it over, and so that's why you saw my wheels turning, because it's so much that can go into it. Even the oak tree, the oak tree has been there for a hundred years, but the oak tree also had to go through a certain thing. So it's it's trunk, it's the tree, the bark. It's harder, but it's harder because it had to resist certain winds and certain storms. So the question is, okay, if you want to be like the oak tree. You got to go through what the oak tree went through. So do you want to go through all of the beating and the the winds and all of you? You want to go through that, because that's the only reason the oak tree is is as strong as it is. And it wasn't just one storm over the course of a hundred years. It was probably hundreds of storms over the course of that time. And so you know, as you when you talk about so you open up so light hands are worms. When you begin to talk about sewing and reaping, when you begin to talk about farming, when you begin to talk about that, because, like you said, that see that you plant that's in the dark. Not only was it just but into just drop it in there. They had to beat it and even then, when seed sprout, the actual seed dies. It has to be broken. It has to be broken. There's no way that anything can sprout out, the roots can sprout out of the seed that is not broken. And so that's why I was looking the way that I was, liking and listeners, I I saw you stir it and you can't see my face, listeners that are listening from the podcast, my wheels were turning and because that's a very I'm very passionate about you know what we sew on, what we were even why said it in the beginning. With our words, our words are seed. We so seed. Every time we speak we so seed, and so I'm very careful with the words that I say. I'm very careful with what I choose to sew from my mouth. I'm very careful of that and you will. I don't know if I could go on and on about so everything that we do is a seat everything listening. I you know. Firstially, I want to thank you, Ariana, for meeting with me and before we go, is it possible to let the listeners know where they can contact you for your products and services? So I don't necessarily have products and services, but you can always find me on facebook. Is the most I think it's the way that we do right now, especially during these times, and it's Ariana s guy. You can find me on on facebook and if you need to message me there, that is that is okay as well, and I thank you for having me. I'm in our that this moment has finallycome and I know it's the it's the first of me. then. I'm glad you said that I was going to tell thank you, thank you, thank you. I'm you know, I I really love that you open to an organic conversation. I love with a conversation led us and I really feel that there's so much the listeners can grasp from that for them because, although it's a conversation between the two of us, there's so much metaphorically, that they can be appliable to their lives and listen. Really hope that you will listen to it again, because sometimes we listen the first time and we think we understand. When you listen to again, you pick up the other bits in between. Yes, yes, so, Ariana, thank you so much. If you want to leave a final message with the listeners, that's perfectly fine with me and we can tell yes, I definitely will. I pray that this has blest you and if it has, it or you're not sure you know where you are in this moment, in this time, because I know that we are all on different walks, are on different paw us, but at the end of the day, all of us are striving for one thing and that is to be joyful, that is to not heard or be in pain. I think everything in life. That's what we do. That's what we strive for, and so if you're at that stage in the the path, where you are it's not so favorable for you, remember the attitude of gratitude and remember that when you do have an attitude of gratitude, your site changes, what you see changes, and you'll be able to see that even what seems bad will all work out for you in the end. The bad, the good, the ugly, it will all come together in this beautiful I call it a conglomeration of beauty and and I just want you to know that. I want you to know that, wherever you are on the path, it's all going to come together. If you haven't dealt with anything negative, you will. It will always come. But on the flip side, if you're dealing with negative,...

...positive will always come as well, and so just keep that in mind. But at the end of the day, it will all work out for your good. I can't believe I took off of that serenaded in those woods. Listens, I really hope that you've enjoyed it as much as the two of us have, and this is all gift to you. Just know that you're not alone and we're going to keep continue to share and I really urge you to go out there and share. Like Arianna said, it's a cycle. We pour into you know, you go and pour into someone else, God blessed. Take care. Thank you.

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