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Life According To Sabrina Ben Salmi BSc
Life According To Sabrina Ben Salmi BSc

Episode 6 · 2 years ago

Episode #6: Rijole Bitata Interviewing Sabrina Ben Salmi and Her Fantastic 5

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Rijole Bitata Interviewing Sabrina Ben Salmi and Her Fantastic 5

Seen Amazing. Guess with me. Her name is Sabrina Ben Zealmi. She likes to be introduced as mother of five, or five, the fantastic five, and we have fantastic for so whay is the fifth one? If one's upstairs in the meeting? Why? So we see woman and for those of you that don't know, Sabrina is a serial entrepreneur and so are her children, and she's a multivational speaker, she's a coach and I think, I think she's got so many accolades that I will have to actually open and read some of what you sent to me. Let's see, lessil see. Is Not going to take a long time, but I think it's useful and beneficial for not proople to know who you are and the amazing works that you do in the community and how you support your children and how you support other organizations and individuals. So I think is it's more than fair for people to know a little bit more about you. So I'm going to read what some of your buios. So this is what Sabrina has under her belt. So let's if I can find it. See, let's let's see. All right. So, as I was saying, she's a mother of five, she's a multivational speaker and shee an award winning radio host. She's appeared on TV, she's been on radio, you see, she has appeared in magazines and newspaper. As I said, is award winning author. She home school hurts her children. She works currently in a partnership with Bruno University alongside her five children, who are aged nineteen, fifteen, one, thous two hundred and ten and six. And, by the way, her son is one of the youngest, actually the youngest ever stem ambassador for Brunel University. For those of you that don't know, they have planned with rune the university to put together family works workshop. I think is to do with stem, if I'm if I'm correct, also together had they have created they family workshop as sponsored by by the Chelsea Foundation as well. Sabrina is number two on the list for twenty, nineteen top fifty most inspirational black women, and they in the UK. She's also been awarded mother of the year as well and she has a one multiple awards to the public speaker. Like I said before, she's a mother, proud mother, proud mother of five and too gross children who are also multi award winners and award winning offers and have the own brand. So I'm sure that you guys are going to be talking about your own projects as well. They are between the ages of six to nineteen and her names are let me not forget anyone. We have lushy, she's the dream Prenner. She has written a book called Stepping Stones Formula. And we also have trey, who has fifteen and also also known as I'm that kid and kids and that that dream big. What else? Who Else is here that I'm forget to Yasmin, who is the love pruner. I love that, and she has written the choice is yours. Please correct me if I'm doing this saying this wrong. And also we have a mirror. She don't know. We have POWLA, ten years old. She has a creator written down, the pine size adventurer. And last but not least, we have the uni of the family, little one called a mirror, also not as Mr Intelligent, and he's written a book called I am intelligent. So we know has children...

...to turn her a verstage adversities into empowering stories. She has turned adversity into hope and she hos to inspire others through her journeys. So she's she inspires global clients and also she's she's on a journey of so discovery so that others can learn from her story. She says you can turn lemons into lemonade. Sabrina has been assisting individuals and also businesses since two thousand and six and as a professional and business transformation consultant, empowering others to achieve the personal and professional goals. Sabrina ignites the burning desire to start leaving the life they've always dream of. She's passionate about the intricacies of the mind and I was surrounding our surroundings, environment and being fully alive. She says that she likes to dance with a universe and pays it forward. Sabrine holds her see the problem called dreaming big. Together, Mamma, super recipe adverging money lounge. You haven't been there. That place is amazing. You need to check this out. Serna's blackground is in computer science. She's the confounder and director of Harris in Victor's academy, who is letting, who has been graded as outstanding by ofsted. She's also the founder Dreaming Big Together Publishing House and she's also behind the branch other of the mobile single parents project, dreaming big teagether. All right, I could go go on and not go on and on and about her late, but I want, I want to bringer to actually to start by sharing, sharing her journey with with the audience. I think my first question to you is how your journey into home school in begin or begun. Should say, thank you so much for having us. What you want to say? Thank you, guys, thank Ye, thank yeah, and excellent question. And in all fairness, I like to believe that I was the initiator for homeschool and I wasn't. It was a mere powow and Yasmin and the shade in some respects years back. So the three of them constantly, and I mean for two years in Ama case. Can we hear me clearly? It's like Kaka. Yeah, I'm saying to make much I'm just on the side in a mess. In regards to a MIA, it was two years setting into store. I would take him into school and we all know that some kids take a bit at time to adjust, but not two years. So I knew that something wasn't right and he would say things along the lines of why am I here? I'm losing myself, when you're going to homeschool me? I was thinking that's quite finely questions from such a young person, you know, and I didn't really have an answer for him to so it's going to sort of the washing machine. Realize, we just don't immune to it in the backgrounds. And he calls me to start thinking about my parents in because my son then he was asking me he wanted to be homeschooled and asking me why he was in stall and it made me have a flashback to when his sister had some Miss Year of song. So she was went through some serious bullying and I homeschooled it and it was purposely just for a period of time till we found another school. I never felt a thought about home school in long term because for me, Hope School was kind of child care and honesty. So it was a place I can leave my kids for a while, because I've always educated my kids at home and they've always been involved in a number of things that will get to when we go for your question. In so to to answer that question, it would there was a number of factors, but I had also been battling this state school system for maybe fifteen years, all kinds of audacities, just not feeling really fulfilled. Listen...

...to and it really dawned on me that, unfortunately, as a parent you, I felt as if I needed to have a PhD, I had to have legal representatives, I had friends that came in to represent me and I sort of felt that if I had to do that and I knew that I had that support system in my network, what about the people that couldn't speak English? What about the people that don't have friends and don't know who to turn to? So I had this internally called up conflict with regards to the educational system, where one on one hand they're saying to you, you know, let us know work with you, but on the other hand they're brushing a lot under the carpet. And there was serious incident and Yazl was attacked twice with scissors, wants in the classroom, once in the playground. So there are lots of things that kind of led up to say, actually, enough enough. What borrow was these the money? And Red Bridge? Red Bridge, all right, I've taught in Red Bridge and for I'm re read from why I can remember it was area predominantly Indian. was that the case when she was growing up, when she was going through school? So so what was the DU DU population terms of the management of the school? Was it representative of the community or was it monocultural? That's an excellent question and I feel that you can get sorry. I feel that that really depicted on how the schools acted. So and we lived in the Baron for ten years. So what we realize is that it was a very predominant Muslim community. But a lot of the people that got, because my children move schools on free, one to get three different schools the area, in the same area, yes, which was just ridiculous, and they all went to the separate schools as well because they didn't have places in one. But what I found is that the one of the issues was definitely a cultural issue, because there were mothers that couldn't speak English, that they were kind of fearful of their partners, so they didn't want any problems from the store, so they had to stay quiet. So someone such as myself, who has always been very vocal outspoken, I was seen as the trouble maker, because they use these authoritarian behaviors to just bully parents. So I remember. Are they you member over this in put in or can't say the name, but in one of the school's, Tray Shawn School in particular, they held us at the gate. So an instant took place and they basically said they do not want parents to actually go to the classrooms anymore to pick up the children. And basically each child had to penetrate this human wall and it just didn't make any sense. But again, because they wasn't English speaking, because a lot of them will going through certain issues, they weren't really challenging what was going on on and then the school was getting away of it. They getting into these cycles of bullying mentalities. To give you an idea, every Friday was also allocated for referrals to social services and I represented quite a few. The mobile single parents project represented quite a few parents that was systematically reported to social services and there was a mother of four that I can remember that I was representing and she was being done for child again and the head teacher basically said her son had turned up hungry and they said that she's not feeding her child, but the argument was she was present in food, all of her children were eating except for this one boy. He didn't like to eat represent the morning, which is perfectly normal. You know, I've got five kids. I like to eat on the way to school, some like to be here. You know, if you're a parent, you know that not all kids sit down meet their breakfast. So it was just a case if this bully and mentality. So yeah, it was. It was rampant. Really was rampant. And at that time, do you have a you said that you had suppalled, but what was this the initial school reaction? Will you you would confront them about certain issues? That's an excellent question. Actually, to flash back. So I didn't have support at home in respect. So my husband's mentality...

...was a bit bit different. So it depends on where you're raised. So a lot of the thing was he expected the school to do more, but I knew they wasn't going to do more. So I had to really fight for that. I had friends, so it whim a day or at all. Is the gentleman who I opened Harrison victors with. So I had very good legal back in Harrott. The Harris Federation was founded by Lord Peckham. So their initial reaction laws or another mom here. She counts. You know, it was like that by just my kind of superficial appearance. But when they knew I was serious, when they knew I wasn't on the backdown, do not do this with my kids and also, furthermore, don't do it if people I'd become aware of, because we did the use to actually represent families. So initially the school would do a lot of false impressions of I care about this, I'm going to remedy it, but then they'll come back and say, oh no, I don't think you understood, it's a misunderstanding. But when they realize my association, which I think is wrong, they started to act in some respects, but I just wasn't happy. Okay, they did sort they act like they cared, but in fact they were not. Not Rest I don't think I had to go to that extent because I actually had to get legal representative for all three schools actually for various reasons. And in one of the schools that Yasmin was actually pinned to a fence by a boy holding each arm, while too was punched her in our stomach, and there was a goal in the classroom who was actually systematically bullying her and other children and would literally threaten other children for being witnesses, and I said that's really like not mycissistic and behavior from a child. I've never seen children to behavior. They were only little and but at first they be kind of okay, this is what's going on, but then I tried to cover it up when they saw the severity. And then I got a call from one of the teachers who actually witnessed the attack, as she said, mom, had I not seen it myself, I wouldn't believe what's been going on for your daughter. And then I had to take her out of the spoil, which is too much. Right. And how was war your daughter after that? Emotionally, it's so yeas to me, and you might want to answer this, how do you feel? How do you feel after that event? That was the time when I started like shutting down, the like pushing on my family, because I believe that if there was one person that was doing it, I believe that the rest of start. So I started to become very disconnected for a family, and ever since we're taking US two immense to show us that we can be different and that we can change bad times into good things. Then I started like opening up and then they started writing it. Yeah, that's great. Do you think that the school had as an etherist value of respect? was that spoken to in the assemblies or even at the Circle Times for I? So it was not consistent and that's something that I find, sadly, very dominant in many schools, where the academics is what counts and then the morals and respect actually third party is that it's not even acknowledged that. So that's why that's something that, unfortunately, I saw a lot while doing what I was doing, supply teaching myself, where you will see horrendous behavior, you will report it and then people will want to kind of put under the carpet as just minor and I witness myself, didn't, being attacked by three in a class and I had to kind of put up with us. I want want to put it up with this. Obviously I didn't want to go back to those schools, but you can imagine as a parent that your Charlie coming home and then and then your pair, your child, is the only witness and you have a whole institution actually kind of...

...covering that up and not wanting to dress that and then, no wonder, then we here certain behaviors of teenagers act in a certain way they were coming when that going into second real school or even after they feto the Goodha for that as appalling, base, embarrassing, embarrassing. So I'm glad that you actually move forward from that because unfortunately many young people actually trapping that system and they internalize it. that the become the victims or to become the perpetrators. And how about tray, tray? Do you also solve Bro do went through anything like that in school or you will, for you as completely different. So in secondary school they are couple of problems. In my primary school there's like so in my primary school it was a very big building that was beingto to from nursery to year soon. No, do you three? And then there was me a fort yes, yes, which was a separate but connected buildings. They had like her gag just find up the in primary I had a cup, a few issues, but not as many in the sect. So we they was that kind of a happy primary setting for you, then you're not really not the thing betray which is quite interesting. And the whole agenda. You know, they are gender on young that boys. I had lots of conversations about that and I never so it. The trade shows my second child, so I hadn't experienced it. Obviously, in the Shase I was like, you know, I don't be negative at the partner into him. I must admit I think we've maybe he wasn't aware of fully of the the context, because I don't really like to bog them down too negativity. But it got to a stage where trade was incredibly quiet and he's always been very incredibly quiet in school and I got called in just to say, you know, he's really quiet, and I asked stuff like, you know, does he have friends? Is the interacting? He goes, you know, he's on top sets or things finds. I said they said they wanted me to bring him out of his shell more and I said, well, I don't really believe in that. I believe that every character is different. I said the worst thing you can do to a natural introvert is to try and bring them out to be I said not every child is loud. He was saying, you know, the class is full of really boisterous boys and I said perhaps phraise not like that. So we had an issue. It was just like a little thing, but they're very soon after I got called in saying that tray Shawn was aggressive and he was disrupting the classroom. Said I was just and I mean it was in the space of weeks, it wasn't a long period. I said, I've been told my son doesn't speak, let alone, you know, disrupted a classroom and all the rest. So Tray Shaw was actually being systematically bullied. And then it was all this casion of how things at home. You know what's going on in the home environment. I think Trashan has aggression issues and I'm looking at my child in this meeting and another peoples because exactly so there was. There was a lot of that. I was in and out of the school with Tray Shan, but the good thing he supported me because he's behavior was excellent. You've got the old one or two teacher that well being very patronizing and trying to play that card. But because he was so kisses consistent with his school reports, he had a tutor at home. So it was really weird. They kept in thing this stuff and then I had to constantly like just negate it. But again the question came back like if I was a woman or a mother that didn't have the confidence to say, you know what, I don't like this, I don't like that, or I'm going to call someone. What would have happened to my son? Okay, wow, where you ever part of the how you call a PTFA in any of the schools? Know if it's interesting. So when I started my mother and journey, I kind of got into being a part of that, but then when I realized there was a...

...lot going on. So one of the mums was on on the governor's board for the governors and she was told not to say anything. She just has to say yesterday everything that was going on. So there's lots of systematic bullying and for me, I've always been very cautious of choosing what I partape in. And you know, it sounded like a wise thing to do because obviously just to be like a helicopter mom be involved, but I felt the fact that I wasn't so inserted into that negativity gave me the scope to be able to support more people. All right, all right, find that. I find that very interesting because I I just realize that many parents in our commity are not part of the PTFA and I remember working in a school in Sabbok and you know SABOC Satogi's proarly African, Nigerian, and I was in this little school and form entry and when I looked around the PTFA, if they had to do any cake sales, any from racing for the school, it would be made the few middle class prayers that will happen to be there, which I found the really, really bizarre. Really repeat this up because now, looking back and now looking where I am working now, which is a middle class area, it's not everyone is fully involved. We can see many diversity and those ptfas and and I think they have a lot of power if, if they are if they are well versed. Once again, you are able to stand that, yes, so that they do have power. And I think many parents now community they are forgetting on neglecting that that P TFA is an avenue to apply pressure on schools. You can influence, you can influence. Let's let's move on. Let's not be negativity. Applied Pressure, but I think influence what goals in the school. You can decide what kind of launch. Your children get hot lunch, to a kind of menu. They get that to the PTFA, whether you celebraterity, science week, after the PTFA. What guests and offers you come to the school? That's the PTFA. Where do the children go for for for year six trip? That's PTF. A influence. So there's a lot of powers in the PTFA is and I think many parents in the community need to be aware of those avenues before escalating things to let's let me get someone to back me up legally, I think. I think that's that's really rather really important something for people to consider. But going back to the story, I would like to ask you as well who guide you, inspire you through the journey home school and because I know that, as you said before, it was not a nice beginning. It was through through our series of bad experiences that your children went through. They just sort okay, let let's put that end to this and let's get my dedication of my children in my own hands. So who inspire you? Who Guide you throw this process? Who Guided me, inspired me? That's interesting. I've always been a very intuitive person in all to stay, so the decisions to actually make that final leap from state school to homeschooling was an actual impromptution. Another if you guys remember, I just kind of cut up and said guys, you know, going back to school and they were like Oh, like PLO and the three of them were like yeah, try shows looking at me coming what are you managed that. So the transition, and again that this is what I've shared in the book, is that our transition was ever so slightly different. Few Yawning because I had been homeschooling my kids since they dots. That make sense. Some parents they send their kids to school and that's it. The child comes back. They do there. If I work and that's it, I was aroused and there's no judgment around and you see, we only do what we do. But because I'm of the entrepreneurial spirit, I was like, I didn't get store. I kind of thought if they're not in a private school, state school cannot do for...

...my children. I know they need so where are the life skills? Where are the entrepreneurial skills? Where are the emotional intelligence skills? Where's the mental I knew that the school didn't have those, so I had to forage for them outside. So when I may, when I heard this intuitive decision to make the lead, I made calls, you know, I contact the the borough, I found out laws, I spoke to people I didn't have a group at the time. When I left, we had a couple of tutors, but there was nothing in terms of infrastructure, and that was the thing that kind of got me from doing it years and years ago. I mean, I stop it please, I'm sorry. And so, basically I remember making a decision and saying, Oh my God, what am I going to do? So it's a bit like what's going on for the whole world, you know, being told that okay, we're all going home and then it's lockdown. It was we was literally in the same position as you, because it was a shock to the system. Yes, we were excited, but we didn't have nothing in plex. So what I started to do was forage for how can I have structure without having too much that having lessons of infrastructure. So my kids are very, very characters, as I guess you can imagine that you've met them already. So the whole schools system of, you know, nine o'clock and then finishing school at three, and some people do that and it's really important to find out what works for your family. So what I had to realize is that a lot of our activities had to be immersive and experiential learning my kids, and for Tracian it was making money and socialize in or he was going to climb out the window and go back to school. I had a window of two weeks to convince that young men to listen to the mom because he was not fil it. He said, I want to go home, I'm going to phone the school, I'm going to relist myself. What do you miss the most when you're when when your mom decided to home school you? I'm just school as a whole, everything, everything, the whole thing. And what about you powerl and what do you miss the most then, if you miss anything at all? Yeah, I miss some friends, but like on the day, the day before, told us that after tomorrow, school, when mom picked me up, smiling at all my friends. Yeah, real school and so happy. Yes, so, so you. I I'm guessing that you didn't miss anything at all from from school, from that state school. Your friends. Yeah, Oh, yeah, something. Yeah, your friends. And what about you asked me. What do you miss, if you miss anything at all? What did you miss? You? I missed some of my favorite objects. And the library. Yeah, the library, if but now you have one at home. I'm guessing, yeah, all right. So did did you guys take part in and in the tailoring of the or what you were learning? Do you take part in your in the in the lessons in itself? Because tray, your mom, said that you wanted to make money. So for you'd where you partner the process of of, you know, deciding what is it that you wanted to learn? And I knew that you Paolo, you in to engineering. Where you into that? Okay, I want to make things all day. Yeah, yeah, okay, so you will part. So you guys were part of the whole processor. You Design the curriculum? Are you around your child's needs? Basically, yes, absolutely, and and and...

...this is what we've put in the book, is that it will not work unless you have their input, because when it's home schooling, remember. So a lot of people come to me and say, Oh, you know, Sabrina, how can you do this for your kids? Might cut my child listener and my kids have their ups and downs. You know, we're ordinary family. The essence was that if we don't include our children in the rest of their future, they're gonna go all over the place. They've got to see the benefits. You know, I cannot control a fifteen year old, a twelve year old, eleven, six and nineteen, if they don't have if they don't feel they have an invested interest to come along with me. So my approach was pretty blacky. So, although we're home stooled to an extent, we spend a lot of time outdoors. We go and immersive learned. You picked up one of the amazing essence with regards to their different personality. So powow has had a dream to become an engineer for years and then when we got the call and have an amazing connection with through now for a wonderful lady called Leslie, he's dream was becoming true. The fruitation was there. We live all the way in Essex. We were journey and all the way down to ups bridge. You know, it's not a stone far away to get its out of the bed in early in the morning. They're not going to do that for me. They're going to do that when they understand wow, I can now do what I love most. Was So excited. YEA normally way to shock. Go back to see. Yeah, we'll go back because I get grownd at. We have to wake up so many morning. It's so far a way but when it came to yeah, it was like Manna. When it came to games. Right now, we was really annoyed because you were every every every Saturday, and we wish that it was all the days because we wanted to go to three now all day, every day year to have fun. And then it's funny you said that because we it was supposed to be every Saturday. We often went there two different as well. So imagine it's like a two and a half our journey. Yeah, and for their school journey used to be a one and a half hour. And the different in characteristics, like they jumping out of bed, their laugh, you're going faces awaken me up, mom. I'm going not heard that before. So there's there's definitely the Richmond side to it. Definitely. So what would you say you have learned about you and your children in the community through the journey home schooling? Our excellent question. So Number One, what I've learned about me is that as parents we sometimes feel overrated. We are not in control all of it and I think sometimes we give up that whole pushing and pulling and needing to learn everything, needing to be to be go to me to be the everyone's answer, everyone's friend. What I had to learn a mere topic, please, it's not nice. One of the biggest shots for me is that my goals, they're very much like your talk to me about things. But my sons weren't bull especially tray short. He was like, Um, I don't need you to do this or I want to talk to you about these things. You know he's going for, he's, you know, manhood's transition in for boyhood to man manhood, and I felt that I was very proud of myself for just being able to let go and realize that it's not about me, because sometimes parents feel really guilty that their children don't want to talk to me about certain things, and I I just thanked that we had a good network or support that they can actually in to connect with. But also just understand it's about your child's journey. So if they happen to come to you, and they do, we all talk about many things. But I also had to respect the fact that sometimes tray wanted to journal and he didn't want to share that with me. And tray has this thing about only wanting to talk about men, about men's stuff. So I was like, oh, that's really interested and then, because I respect that element of him, you find that you end up opening up in different ways, which has been really amazing. And what I also learned with...

...a question second part of your question is that when you're homeschooling, it's really important that you remember the whole that old quotation, that African proverb it takes a village to raise a child. It really really does. So if I want to be the one to teach Parlo engineering and teach TRACIA and financial education and teaching as with about animals, they wouldn't get very far because I know little about all three of those industries. So what I found is that by I create in the relationships, creating those immersive experiences for my children, they can go into areas in a depth that is beyond deeply profound for myself because it's outside my current awareness. So what have you gonna ask your children this the same question. What have you learned about yourself through this journey? Yes, me said with the ask men. Yeah, so I've learned more about myself, because that's all they didn't you to like express yourself as when she would at home. So when I can learn the subjects, that the key subjects and two or three languges that you might know, which is Spanish or French. We are lucky. Yeah, and at home I get to learn Korea, Japanese, Chinese, Spanish, French. Uh Huh, no, yeah, yeah, I'm going to start learning Joan, because it's a bit hard, though. And then I'm so glad you actually has the questions. I overlook that because Yasmin has a talent for language and she's only discovered that since leaving school. M and it's very interesting, remember, very, very, very interesting, because many children, unfortunately, especially in this country, didn't like languages. Because this is so forceful, so target driven. That drives their enthusiasm, our children. So well done, well done. Yeah, so you are you interest, you have a genuine interest, and that's going to pay. Your believer is going to pay all the time. How are you pow long what have you known about yourself for this journey? What is it that you didn't know about yourself that you know now? Maybe maybe, mom, maybe mom, or your sedience can answer something. You know, the difference to be poor and the enough. I've noticed that since polers come out of school very coffey, and that's what what we say that's not my word, you're cheaching is. And what I've noticed is that since Panna's come out of school, he he has really expanded in a very adult context. What I've realized is that plow was really shrinking into being like his peers and school and he was like because he lived two lives and I happened for all of them in different ways. So it was a lot of having to try and I won't say I do this, I won't sound like that, because that's not what they do. So I found that he was sharing half of hisself and I think now and he comes the full fruitation. One thing that I've noticed this and I'm sure you remember when I tell you he's become a serial Galactic International Entrepreneur, like Carlo, has been doing some interesting things that are going to impact this world for generations to come. This year, once with we come out of isolation, but he's created free, really powerful deals that are going to go out into the consinate of Africa. And I can't say too much as where in India, but we got to Brunel University because of powlow and his I really commended siblings, as his siblings came to Brunel purely to support him. There like aw goal, the calls, you...

...know, I like I know you like it. But then they fell in love there. So power has been the one that's really been bringing in those awesome connections, and they all have in their own different ways. But since you've come out, I think the I think collectively they've all stepped into their power about who they can be now, not when they grow up. I think deals and yeah, I think now I'm very good at peaking long term relationships with company CEOS, CFOs, yeah, any of them. I'm really good at keyating relationship with them that we can have pership in the future and will show very good at peaking opportunities. Definitely. Yeah, definitely, but so I think. So do you think that you would connect more with with all the people now that you are into this journey? They're younger ones that yeah, yeah, yet, so really you still get yeah, I'm connected kids. Yes, the interviews that down was with Dr John De Martini. Uh Huh. Yeah, so I'm actually I think we're st in contact. You're doing another movie. Yeah, coming up Polos. Bit had an interest in journey because, like the kids, don't work all day long. Like part of the homeschool and ethos is that they have more freedom, so they vote very more focus. We might spend a week on one topic. I think that's really what homeschooling gives you. It's such a broad spectrum that you get to determine, and I think homeschooling is so important regardless of your child's in school or out of school, because my mind set around homeschool there's that teach your child how to live in the university and might let them be a lifelong student there, and they can only do that when they know how to harness their own internal powers and have confidence in where they go and who they are and what they bring to the table. Excellent. Can I ask train now, what have you learned about yourself since this journey? I learn many things. I've learned so, as a resort of coming out school, we've been able to attend, you know, invest in the from there. We I've learned like what routes I need to go down, supers use certain certain goals and dreams, and this to also helps me to get ready for or like what I need to what part I need to choose. Do you guys think that home schooling has allow, has brought your potential, as he said, closer and also your goals took more into the physical und other than something in the fairy world. Yeah, exafinitely, because when we was at school, like with my little brother, he would like go to school and you would like tell his friends what he does and even sometimes the teachers, and he tells them. I've written a book about affirmations and some of the teachers don't even know our affirmations. Is So. And also so, if I was to last, my teachers are something to have, like a motivational speaker in school and to have a presidentation to ask me what's that? Yeah, so, yeah, so MOMS with home schooling. Mama US A lot. So she, instead of going to science teachers, last teachers, last cheaters, English teachers, moms taking us week first. So a yeah, so shine is biologies, and yet so all the experts in different fiels, moms taking us there. So you've been made to basically what man has allowed you,...

...guys, is and also you have done it for yourselves, is that you have brought those mentors and coaches to you so you can speed up the process of you know, as you mentioned early self discovery, which is great, and that's a ties in with my next question. What's your routine like? I know that you don't have a timetable as such, but what's your routine like? Let's start with you ask me what do you do? What's your routine like in the mornings? So I've actually started what videoing. Why I'm doing so? Mornings I like to want to chapter of my favorite book called after it's given, uh Huh, and then in the evenings I like to read more of that and then put some more things to my guest. She job. So I've started this thing called a ripple of lave, where someone write something that even they go for or that they like to have, all that they already have on their great for their life or something or something. They put it in and then another persons take something out, and then it's basically taking something and putting something back in. So it's getting it back but also receiving. And Yeah, I do like I started studying psychology, and that's me. Oh Wow, and then you have that. You have my shooter, as you have your mask. English and science students they kind of call subjects. How are YOU POWLA? What's it so like has been shared in the morning. So I do videos about like so in a group on facebook. So just everyone who who I know on facebook gets any better. So, yeah, so do videos around that. And then once I finished reading, we me and Trishans on the side after we finished everything that needs to be done. We have our own gaming channel and that we playing. Are after doing what we need to do and then we can have a bit of frust ourselves setting up our gaming channel. And Yeah, so you do it in reading and again. Yeah, yeah, reading. So we do lots of reading from the day we do videos of our student reading. So I'm reading a book called start with work and now I'm for tractor and start reading sing. Yeah, so that's my daily routine. And yes, thank you, I think, for sharing. What are you tray? What's your routil like? So Mas, I do that too, and then work out, like a short work out in the morning and then do the Chios during the maps, science, English course, objects and I do my just so I have a little training book just to help me still some remember everything. I just got over that. And then I have a couple of our things. I did ututional drinks that were in the morning. Then we do reading for about depends how long the chatches will usually drawn around half an hour.

Then after that that we've yeah, we can. Yeah, it's quite interesting listening to the everything that you guys did really well. So the reason why it sounds all airy fairyes, that we diarize everything. So how it works is that we don't do the same thing every day. Is I think the kids all trying to grab like what similar each day. So because we have network and peer and coaches and events, a lot of our day is is depicted around different engagements that we're involved in. So before this took place we would be out running workshops at Chelsea or virgin and run. Now so lache spoken at run. Now tracial slotsom in speaking engagements there they're running workshops. So their their academics is sectioned in a way that will go throughout their life, because as a family we believe in long, lifelong learning. So a lot of what they do is a lot of reading, immersive learning, spending time with different mentors at their homes and we travel, we tend the fens. So it the best way to kind of describe it. We're not doing things that kind of take us out life, our life. We're just living our life, if that makes sense. So you imagine and adult person and you just schedule in. What's IT for today? What will we focusing on? Have we completed that project? Because, apart from all their academics, they also have their own individual brands, they have their own individual books, they have their own individual publishing houses. So, like, listen to the kids. You got you did well. There's so much for them to remember because of the way it's all stagnated. It's very organized through a diarization rather than because if they did school life, so to speak, from nine until three, it means they wouldn't be able to do everything else. So, yeah, it's just integrate. What's going on this week? Where do we do that? Okay, we're spending a week on this project. Okay, what are we doing with your now? So it's very much they're just living their lives and things get slotted in as of when. But then they've got the core subjects where they meet their choosers or the weekly basis. Excellent. So so now that needs to us to the next question, and is the following. Why do you decide to write a book? That was you's okay, I know that lot of us, by the way, all of you, have written books. So it's now we can go around and you can share. Why is that? You decided to write a book. Who wants to answer the woods? I think so. Who wants alms of us? So you're going to go first off, first, go ahead, but but I think that. Yeah, there's two weeks in fire should the first reason is so though, if they can do it, I can get I'm a bit wild. So, yeah, kids there are. I Work Company polled water together as writing my book. Yes, so, and my shipings inspired me to run book. Then I just wrote it. And second reason book was because I wanted like the what the book is about? It's about getting kids off. There are cousins world. A lot of time. When you walk outside, when I walked outside, or let's say we went to a restaurant, maybe. Yeah, so you go anywhere, maybe it's a meeting, and you always see like at least one kid on his ipad playing games, and it's not just for like thirteen minutes straight time. It's like twenty four hours per day. Their face to face with the phone and their parents they just let them continue playing all day. My Book. He's not...

...about completely eliminating screen time, it's about reducing it. So I'm teaching kids to reduce their stream time because it can have lots of different effects in the body. So making affect to your I started my lost man when they still play video games. Yeah, so, yeah, it's really and it's good to be honest as well. So how a lot of the reasons parlow did get started is because polo was becoming quite aggressive when he was playing. It was changing him. So it was a case that I was trying to get involved. That was the really compute game and going back and forth, and then you would challenge to do some research, if you remember, and then you started to find out. So you will convertect. Yeah, he's game in time is much better now, really, really healthy. Sounds glad. I really am PROVAC. Yes, what about you, tray? How do you do? You like to write a book? So the main reasonable just to share my message of blood and also to bring awards around how people of all ages can make my ndeed what they love and each other. Different books that every different agendas, but the main, the main a Gennifer and as a whole, just to teach people are to make mending what they love and how no dream is too small and just to go for everything that you go for every opportunity. HMM. What about Yes man? Why did you decide to write a book? There are a couple of things I just write. So the first thing is because I want to share my story, how bullying affected me and how I changed it. So one of the chapters in my book is called D Clutter, and some people may just think of the word depute as just clearing out your space, but I think of the word as carrying out your mind as well. HMM. So I decided to write to book to clear out my mind and to share the things that I've learned and to share with other people so that if they'd been through the same boon that I've been through, they can turn their bad experiences into a good one and they can make a happy lifestyle on it. And what about you, Sir Bruner? Because now you have, because now you have put everything in a book, your aldio success stories. Nice. It's in a book, available to every for everyone. Why do you have to do that? Yeah, interestingly enough, I actually didn't think of writing the book, as you know. You know we got okay, I've got this great ideality write the book. I trend. We transitions and then we kept into having all these questions for an asked and I never really saw it as a big deal, to be honest. You know, when we do things, we just got Oh, didn't realize that was the impact. So I'd kept to not being asked these questions. I was keep kept and given the same result, like the same answers that I frequently asked answers, and I sort of just felt one night I just put the kids to bed and I remember just pulling out the laptop and just writing. So by day to the book was finished. So it was really just the way of sharing. Actually, if we just share our journey, that's what people are the best lessons, you know, the best books in the world and just people sharing their stories. And what I realize is that there was a lot of people that wasn't aware of the kind of legal implications of home stool it. You See, a lot of people would like to homestall that they're fearful. So one of the things that I really incorporated in the book was that you have to be very mindful. These are our children. Okay, this is the most serious decision you're going to make with regards to their interest because there is a league implication. You do have to do things the right way, otherwise it could be serious detrimental to...

...yourself and your family. So this is the actual book, Hashtag home schooling, and so one. The first part of the book is all about our journey, the thought process. Me Go through my own terrors of can, I cannot, time in, what's in place? You know, all of the usual things like how do I do this? I don't have a plan. Actually, the first step is really just to get to know your children. Once you know your children, you know what their interests are, though, where they desire to go initially, what they want to experience. That's all unique. The rest will start to come to frutation. And then the second part of the book is all about the legality. How you need to De Register from school, who needs to be informed, to what extent? What do you do with home visits? What happens if the police turn up? You know, so and and so forth. What I felt is that it's one aspect, me tell them the story and saying, you know, it's happy go lucky, but it's okay for me because I've got someone to call. What about the serious essens, because if you don't do these things properly, it can really lead to your children being removed from the home, like all kinds of utope. I know of a fee of nine novel case or of someone that had to go through that, unfortunately. Yes, exactly, and I felt if I'm going to give the story, I don't want to just give half. I think you know sometimes we tell a story but we don't talk about the times when we were crying. We tell a store and we don't talk about the time we found someone. So it didn't make sense for me to kind of share our journey without being very open honest with regards to what I had to learn, because they were things I didn't know. I remember I went on to facebook and I told everyone I was homeschool and be like Oh, yeah, what and I was like, Oh my God, I'm so happy and day one I felt so invigorated. I didn't have a plan and her many she was absolutely amazing. She said, Oh, you know, are you aware of what set groups and facebook groups? And she sent me a lot of links and that just felt so invigorating to go, Oh wow, I kind of know where I go to if I need to ask some information, because one of the things I've never been scared of doing is asking questions. You know, being a coach and being a mental. If you're a mother, your father, that's a coach and mental. Don't feel that you always have to be leader in all of this that you know, a good teacher always knows when to be the student and the teacher. So I had to become the student. I had to learn so much to ensure the safety of my family and my children. And again, it depends on the school. So by law is really important. You know what's law and what's school. See, some schools will do whatever they can to keep you on the system. Why? Just like what goes on around the world, is all about money. So remember your child being allocated to their schools, especially if the seem they will do whatever they can within their power to keep that fund in this so they will make you fearful that they will pull it all on. But once you know, and I had no problems when I had to write to the school. Why? Because I had templates, which are also included in the book. I knew exactly what to say. I knew exactly to address it. To excuse me, I would suggest that you don't just call up the school because they say you can call in and notified, but the worst thing to do is just that, because it's someone to say I haven't spoken to you. Remember, it's always a bed of roses when everything's okay. It's when things go wrong what do you have to stand on? So I would always say if it's you're going to write in a recorded delivery. Again, you can always lose that proof. So the best way that I felt was was advisable was electronics. So email. So I made sure I did everything electronically. I kept electronic and physical paper trials. So all of that is in the book and this is why I'm so excited about getting the book out there, because there's the the practical side. If you don't cover the League side, that's the worst thing you can do as a family because you don't know when things show up, what's okay, what's not okay, what should I do? So would you say that your book is can transform lives? Absolutely likely read it thoroughly and study it in the want to just throw themselves just to a complete new world which...

...is actually home. Schooling, because I'm cooling now. League good, and you have many successful people like the Williams, the tennis players, that were home school and John Legend was home school and a few people, and then people don't know, even the wilow Smith and and her brothers well, that home school, and you have the massive, brilliant examples of home school. But people don't know what people have to go through. And I think it's brilliant that you mentioned the legality, because I was not aware of thought. That thought that your children, as far as I'm concerned, that your children to a degree, and that you have absolute power and the decision to decide which would date take. And in the book. Yeah, yeah, the cost start that you have all the rights exactly like what you've said. Provide. Let you follow this the right steps. When you don't follow the right steps, that's when you really read it. Will Rea have it in your life, because I become quite messy. So where can people find the book and where can people follow year as well? Guys it to share. That's now sad. Twitter handles instagram will know that you are on social media. Was Yours Nice and loud? Okay, so you guys can follow me off instagram as and to it. Yeah, everything's are twitter. Is the cover? Excellent. Thank you, joy yours. I am intelligent. I'm a ribbon sell me. Yeah, WHO's next? Next Book? You can place book part and on twitter it should be power and platforms. Yeah. Yeah, and you've got a website. There's a website link on powers instagram that goes directly to the water to go website. Then you can access the book and bottles from the same to ten circles, to challenginiors like crape and sell me. Yeah. So on Instagram is just all the t tell me across order. Thank you. And what about your book to Ruina? So all of our books are available on at any good books, that bookshops to be honest. So they can order them in, but primarily you can aller from us or on Amazon. So there's such an array of opportunities of how to get to actually all the book and again, the same bought. And Yeah, so it's on social media. We are on dream big together on facebook page. We've also got homeschool in the Ben Soami fantastic five on facebook. And again it's a postborder just UN named Sabrina Ben Sounmony of all social media platforms. Each Other. Children are on Linkedin. So we actually run a host of packages and services the really enrich or family's life, because one of the things that we realize is that was talked to us by one of our friends and the family, actually the Swan family, and she asked the daughter, what do you want to be? Now, you see, I want to leave a question for the families, will for the adults, for the...

...parents. What are you teaching your children between now? You see, they say it takes tenzero hours specialize in something. Why we waiting until they leave school in order to start activating that premise? So all of my children have their own linked in profiles that I manage, obviously, because they can't be on there. And to give you an example power. A mere has maybe four hundred contacts now on Linkedin. That's powerful. So they're going to watch a man grow. So boy, the fine he's of that time when he start looking for partnerships, start looking for opportunities, do you think he has to do a lot to sell his self to people? Chapters are known, because he's already recognized as the youngest ever. And I matter that Brunette with the one of the most prestigious universities here in the UK. But also it's this making you realize that don't just watch what we're doing. Come along and learn with us, coming along and see how you can see these teachings into your family. I every book we've ever published, I've got to and tray short has thirteen, yeat machete has five. She's writing another one at the moment. So every book that we're putting out there is about our own personal journey. So it's where we came from and how we managed to overcome the problems. So we I just really want to emphasize the families that it's not about watching US powers. The one in the family always says free things. You can ever be in the movie, Watch the movie or direct the movie, and the question is, which one are you and your children choosing to do? Because you don't necessarily have to deep watch the movie. It's not just about platform and watching. Come and get involved and then want you understand the mechanisms the society behind it. You then too can activate and then chances are other people can contribute to your movie and then vice versa, and you go along having fun together. I think this was wonderful. He was brilliant. I thinks will be very, very useful, because one thing that people need to do after watching you, guys, is to take action. I think, I think, as you said Powel earlier, if they give you your you saw your siblings, mom writing books and you decided to do the same thing. I think after this interview, whoever is watching this should take this use you as a perfect example of people that take action, people that actually are working towards building their dreams and not waiting for anyone or anything or any subsconce has to become ideal. Just do it. Yeah, and I you're an inspiration as well, but to us, if you can intew you us, that is a great deal of courage, because you never know when someone's going to shake now. So you're an inspiration as well. Thank you for take many time. It's been a pleasure and definitely we need to like commend and share so people, so people actually get to know you guys. Most of the time what happens is that whatever happens in America, you know, I love my American brothers and system, but whatever happens there get shared, viral goals viral constantly goes viral, vary well, and then whatever we do here is everything quite, quite quiet. So I think we need to share, like and comment and make sure that everyone knows about your story. Guys, yeah, it's been a pleasure having you here. How I love the evening all yet take care.

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